(Repost; typo "liked" sb "lied)

They're cases were similar in that they both erred. Please consider the context.

If their cases were the same, then Miller would have had to have known what he was doing was wrong. Is this what you think? That Miller knew the truth about the Sabbath, but lied about it?

TE: Yes, he erred. This is what she said, not that he sinned, as you put it.

MM: Does the word "erred" in the case of Moses mean he sinned? If so, why doesn't it mean the same thing in the case of Miller?

All sins are errors. She wasn't concerned about Moses' actions, in the specific context of what she wrote where she referred to Moses' action as him having sinned but as him having erred.

You appear to be trying to make an inference that you have no basis in logic to try to make. Is is true that Moses erred? Yes. Is it true that Miller erred? Yes. What was EGW's point? That they both erred.

She wasn't considering when commenting in this specific place about Moses whether or not he had sinned, but that he had erred. In other places, where she was concerned about it, she says he sinned. We know Miller did not understand the truth of the Sabbath, so Miller's case is different than Moses, which is easy to see by considering the evidence.

Anyway, did you have any point in asking your question? If so, what is it?

The point is - God has the right to impute repentance in cases where people die in the same instant they sin. They didn't have time to repent but they would have had death not prevented it. For example, a guy curses just before he dies in a head-on collision. Had he not died first he would have repented. In cases like this God imputes repentance. When it comes up in judgment, "Pardon", appears written beside it in the "book of records".

What good would "imputing repentance" do? Why do you think this would be necessary or desirable?

Any sin that doesn't have "pardoned" written beside it in the books in heaven counts against them in judgment. All sins must repented of and pardon written against it. Here's what Ellen wrote about it:

The intercession of Christ in man's behalf in the sanctuary above is as essential to the plan of salvation as was His death upon the cross. {GC 489.1}

Everyone must be tested and found without spot or wrinkle or any such thing. {GC 489.3}

Opposite each name in the books of heaven is entered with terrible exactness every wrong word, every selfish act, every unfulfilled duty, and every secret sin, with every artful dissembling. {GC 482.1}

When any have sins remaining upon the books of record, unrepented of and unforgiven, their names will be blotted out of the book of life, and the record of their good deeds will be erased from the book of God's remembrance. {GC 483.1}

Sins that have not been repented of and forsaken will not be pardoned and blotted out of the books of record, but will stand to witness against the sinner in the day of God. {GC 486.2}

Those who have confessed their sins to Jesus in the sanctuary, have made Him their friend, and have loved His appearing will have pardon written for all their sins . . . {LHU 379.2}

Now is the day of preparation; now is the time when we can have our defects removed; now is the time when our sins must go beforehand to judgment, be confessed and repented of and pardon written off against our names. {UL 373.4}

MM, I think you're getting the cart before the horse. The books in heaven are not the problem. It's not like this:

a.MM commits a sin.
b.The sin is recorded in a book.
c.The sin remains recorded in the book and because it is in the book, MM is lost.
d.MM repents and confesses
e.The sin is removed.
f.Now MM is OK, because the sin is no longer in the book.

It's not the record of the sin in the book that causes MM to be lost, but the real sin in MM's heart. The question is if the sin is in the heart or not.

If a person purposes in his heart to act contrary to God's will, in full knowledge of what he is doing, this is rebellion. God cannot take rebels to heaven because

a.They would not be happy there.
b.They would cause all sorts of problems.

So in order not to take rebels to heaven, God removes the rebellion from the hearts of rebels, assuming they are willing.

Nobody will be lost for any other sin than rebellion. That's simply another way of saying this:



To resist is to rebel.

So in the hypothetical case of a person's sinning, and dying before having the opportunity to repent, the person never was in rebellion and the books in heaven will record this truth (that the person was not in rebellion).

It's very simple. Will the person be happy in heaven? Only those who are not rebels will be happy in heaven, which are they who love the Lord and their fellows. A non-rebellious sin at the end of one's life wouldn't change these things.

A&E did not rebel. Eve was deceived and Adam unwisely chose to share her fate. Given your explanation of things God should have overlooked the problem.

They did rebel. If they hadn't rebelled, I would sort of agree with your sentiment, except your statement that "God should have overlooked the problem" should be something like "the problem would have been much less grave."



The "race of rebels" consisted of Adam and Eve when this took place.

Another quote: