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Re: The Wrath of God #11535
11/20/04 05:55 AM
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[ January 01, 2005, 08:26 AM: Message edited by: Doug Meister ]

Re: The Wrath of God #11536
11/20/04 12:37 PM
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Hi Doug: I think that you did not read my post very closely. I did not say that there was eternal life for the wicked. They are killed by the eternal fire of God's love. Eternal life are for those of us who choose to live forever in the fire of God's love, and since I believe that the Bible teaches that hell fire is God's love, God's Character, God's glory, when will that ever end?

Re: The Wrath of God #11537
11/21/04 11:41 PM
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God doesn't kill--sin does.

Peace and Love,

Stacie

Re: The Wrath of God #11538
11/22/04 07:17 AM
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Re: The Wrath of God #11539
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Re: The Wrath of God #11540
11/22/04 02:35 PM
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Doug, God is the fire that burns eternally. That was Kevin H's point.

Re: The Wrath of God #11541
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From this thread the statements lead to a strange end:
God is Light:
God is Love:
God is Good:
God is Fire:

Interesting statement that "God is Fire".

Re: The Wrath of God #11542
11/22/04 05:13 PM
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Fire not always destroys but sometimes purifies.

/Thomas

Re: The Wrath of God #11543
11/22/04 07:34 PM
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Information on Lynn Wood, one of the proponents of a deeper understanding of what hell fire really is, this appeared in a magizine for Southern Adventist University.
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The establishment of the Lynn H. Wood Archaeological Museum by the School of Religion at Southern Adventist University continues the long tradition of emphasis in archaeological research by the Seventh-day Adventist Church in the Middle East. Over the last thirty years educational institutions of the church have been recognized for their excellence in archaeological research, excavation, and publication. One scholar remarks that sponsored excavations have been "a model of interdisciplinary research," while another states that they have "become one of the most sophisticated and truly interdisciplinary of all American archaeological excavations in the Middle East." There are many factors that have contributed to this interest in archaeology over the years, but perhaps one of the most significant is the legacy of several key individuals whose vision captured the potential and vital contributions archaeology would have on the understanding of the Bible. The first of these key thinkers in the church was Lynn H. Wood.

LYNN H. WOOD (1887-1976)
The service of Lynn Harper Wood to the church spanned three continents. He became president of Southern Junior College (now Southern Adventist University) from 1919-1922 and later became president of what is today Avondale College in Australia, Stanborough Park College, England and Andrews University, in Michigan. In 1934 he took a leave from his administrative responsibilities at Emmanuel Missionary College (later Andrews University) and began his graduate studies at the University of Chicago. After completing an M.A. he spent seven months as the Jastrow Fellow at the American School of Oriental Research in Jerusalem. During this time he traveled extensively throughout the Near East and excavating with Nelson Glueck at Tell el-Kheleifeh and Khirbet et-Tannur. In 1937 Wood became the first scholar in the Seventh-day Adventist Church with a Ph.D. in archaeology. Subsequent to the completion of his studies he became a professor at the SDA Theological Seminary in Potomac, Washington and established the Archaeology and History of Antiquity Department.
Over the years Wood's contribution to the historical background and chronology of Biblical events were strongly felt throughout the church. His articles regularly appeared in Signs of the Times and The Review and Herald. In April, 1949 he inaugurated a column in the The Review and Herald dedicated to "Archaeology and the Bible." Entries for this column appeared almost every month. Wood also contributed a number of articles to professional journals outside of the denomination. The contribution of this pioneer was recognized in an important article published in the prestigious Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research, by Professor William F. Albright, the brilliant and dominant John Hopkins scholar, who stated that the close of the Twelfth Dynasty in Egypt was "now apparently fixed by Wood." His collaboration with Professor Siegfried Horn, his student and successor, in the book entitled The Chronology of Ezra 7, established the date of 457 B.C. as the 7th year of Artexerxes. Upon his death in 1976, Dr. Wood's personal library of archaeological volumes was donated to the McKee Library of Southern Adventist University, the institution that he so much loved and devoted his energies to during his early years.
In his honor, the Lynn H. Wood Archaeological Museum was established in 1999 with a handful of artifacts donated by various faculty members of the university and a dream that someday it would grow to facilitate the development of a new archaeological emphasis in the School of Religion. A modest, illustrated, and annotated display was placed in the McKee Library on November 1.

Re: The Wrath of God #11544
11/22/04 09:51 PM
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Hey Doug,

quote:
Originally posted by Doug Meister:
Stac, if sin destroys sinnes - why are there so few dead people walking around? Why does it take til the end of the 1000 years for these sinners to be ressurrected and then destroyed by fire? And Why fire?

Fact is the sinner (Satan) is not going to destroy themselves (himself). Some intelligent source MUST do the destroying. I say that source is God and the Bible backs me up on this. I just dont wanna argue this point.  -
--Ðøug  - 2004.11.22.0.25.50 PT

Every where you look you will see dead people, in the spiritual sense of the word of course. Sin destroys the mind of God's people everyday, in other words, the consequences of a rebellious heart pays it wage and that wage is death.

It is my belief that on the day that the unhealable come face to face with Dr. Love, there will be no doubt in any mind-earthly or heavenly-that their destruction is not at the hand of God but by their own.

The fire? I believe it is God's goodness. That same fire that consumes the "wicked" will be life imparting to God's friends.

I enjoyed your input and no need to fear arguments which by the way are very good. It allows us the oppurtunity to learn more and decide what it is we really believe in. We cannot know what we really trust in until we are challenged by opposition.

Peace and Love,

Stacie

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