Tom and Rosangela, salvation is based on two things, namely, the imputed and imparted righteousness of Jesus. Sinning cancels the privileges of salvation. Experiencing the gift of repentance restores it. In the same way sinning would have disqualified Jesus, so too, sinning disqualifies us. Moses sinned and died in a save state because he repented.

Had he refused to repent he would have died lost. But it was his custom to repent. Had he died in the throes of sinning, I have no doubt God would have imputed repentance. "Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin." (Rom 4:7, 8) "All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death." (1 John 5:17)

“All that man can do without Christ is polluted with selfishness and sin; but that which is wrought through faith is acceptable to God. {FW 94.1} “While good works will not save even one soul, yet it is impossible for even one soul to be saved without good works. {FW 111.1} “Our good works alone will not save any of us, but we cannot be saved without good works. {AG 309.3}

“Faith and works go together, believing and doing are blended. The Lord requires no less of the soul now, than He required of Adam in Paradise before he fell -- perfect obedience, unblemished righteousness. {1SM 373.1} “Those who profess great faith, yet have not works, will not be saved by their faith. {2T 657.2}

“All who are saved must fight manfully as soldiers of Jesus Christ; then they will be registered in heaven's books as true and faithful. They are to work the works of Jesus Christ, fight the good fight of faith. {UL 377.6} “Keeping the commandments of God requires of us good works, self-denial, self-sacrifice, and devotion for the good of others, not that our good works alone can save us, but that we surely cannot be saved without good works. {TMK 334.3}

How, then, are we to be saved? "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness," so the Son of man has been lifted up, and everyone who has been deceived and bitten by the serpent may look and live. "Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." John 1:29. The light shining from the cross reveals the love of God. His love is drawing us to Himself. If we do not resist this drawing, we shall be led to the foot of the cross in repentance for the sins that have crucified the Saviour. Then the Spirit of God through faith produces a new life in the soul. The thoughts and desires are brought into obedience to the will of Christ. The heart, the mind, are created anew in the image of Him who works in us to subdue all things to Himself. Then the law of God is written in the mind and heart, and we can say with Christ, "I delight to do Thy will, O my God." Ps. 40:8. (DA 175.5)

M: Judas sinned and was not saved. King Saul sinned and was not saved. And the list goes on. However, Moses sinned and was saved. King David sinned and was saved. And the list goes on. So, what makes the difference? Sinning is sinning, so there's no difference on that account. "All have sinned." And the wages of sin is damnation and death not pardon and salvation.

I believe the difference has to do with the person who sins. If it is in their heart to repent the moment they sin, if it is their habit to repent the moment they sin, then it stands to reason they do not forfeit their salvation when they sin. Technically, I suppose, they are lost while in the throes of sinning, but in practicality they are saved since inevitably they will repent. The same thing applies if they should die while in the throes of sinning.

J: How could a person repent the MOMENT he sinned? I never hear such thing!! He may repent but at least some minutes later, or maybe hour or days.

If God would have imputed repentance to Moses, then he didn't lose his salvation when he sinned. It seems to be clear this is what you believe. I don't understand your reticence in answering my question "No, Moses did not lose his salvation." Just to be clear, this *is* what you believe, isn't it? Moses did not lose his salvation when he sinned.

Are we still in disagreement about salvation as an on/off switch?

T:If God would have imputed repentance to Moses, then he didn't lose his salvation when he sinned. It seems to be clear this is what you believe. I don't understand your reticence in answering my question "No, Moses did not lose his salvation." Just to be clear, this *is* what you believe, isn't it? Moses did not lose his salvation when he sinned.

M:Moses didn't lose his salvation because he repented. Had he not repented he would have been lost.