That manifest concept that it didn’t/couldn’t exist is itself new to me. On what, presumably, Biblical statement (i.e., vs. mere philosophical assumption), did you base/derive this view from?

As I straightforwardly see it, FMA’s were just inserted in that already unrolling time when God decided to create them.

Ok, that makes sense. I'm afraid I still had a leftover portion, much like MM's view, that the future actually existed.

"All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." Jesus created time and space. They do not exist naturally. They are not co-eternal with God. Thus, God existed before time and space. Which, to me, implies He can exist inside and outside of time and space. He is not bound by or limited to time or space. Time and space plays out within a capsule enclosed within something we cannot define or explain.

Who says that “time” has to be a tangible entities. Sure we can come to measure it, but is it an entity in itself. (Interestingly enough the sun and moon (=day and night) serve to measure this time). I can see that “space” as a place to live and for galaxies to be placed in, could have been created by God, however “time” as the non-physical entity that it innately is, could easily have always existed with God. I.e., Because God always was, the “time” made existent simply because He exists, was naturally also present, though, again, not as a distinct, made-to-be tangible entity (e.g, measured time). You may also be conflating “time” with what the Bible calls “an age” (Greek: aion), which is only a period of time in that larger time. So our “age” was created by God (Heb 1:2; 11:3 = “world(s))) after he existed, but it is just in the continuum of “God’s Time”. Time is an ethereal concept, not a physical entity, though capable of being kept track of (= “measured”).

God's ability to know the future like history is, no doubt, beyond our ability to comprehend. The idea that He is nothing more than a good guesser is, in my opinion, an ignorant attempt at explaining something we are incapable of comprehending. Prophecy is too clear and concrete to dismiss as nothing more than a good guess.

Mountain Man, you are just rotely and defensively restating the Classic View “talking points.” My view is based upon what God has said and revealed in the Bible. That is how we come to know what God does and not by mere assumptions. I do not at all believe that God “guesses” the future. He instead detailedly plans it through His perfect wisdom and knowledge of what is best for this world and then when the time comes He summons whatever and whoever is necessary in order to carry this foreplan out. Prophecy is the perfect demonstration of this.

If you want to engage in a Biblical study on this topic, I’ll do it. However just repeating rote maxims and truism about what we think God should be like vs. what He Himself has said and revealed is not worth the time. The foreplanning view is firmly rooted in the Bible.

So if you are interested in a Biblical discussion (i.e.. Cited Bible and SOP (“I was shown”) passages to present your view I’ll do it. And that on the other pertinent thread on this topic referenced above. Also I recommend first reading my blog post on this as I have already discussed this in great and interactive deatils. You can see for yourself there how the Classical View has no Biblical and SOP-direct revelation (i.e., vs. EGW personal understanding), support.

No, thank you.

Absolutely no problem!! And thanks for being up front about this! (That is of course, as proposed, 'not wishing to have a, what would need to be, Biblical discussion on the topic!').

Perhaps later on.

Fine. In the mean time and/or in preparation, do read up on my already expounded view on this topic on my blog. I think the responding SDA Pastor there (51 total comments) has made the same comments you may.