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Re: Does God Create Evil or Does God Permit Evil?
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07/04/13 07:16 AM
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You call God the accuser of the brethren. Lest one of us be found to be a liar, please find the post where I did this. Blessings, Green Cochoa. Hm - lets see, God raises the wicked to punish them. Obviously then He has judged them and convicted them, now He MUST punish them. And this is not accusing them? Have I got your reasoning wrong? If so, please clarify. I see. So you cannot find where I said God is the accuser of the brethren. You have no post of mine to quote where I made such a statement. The fact is, your statement about what I had said was a lie. Apology requested.Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Does God Create Evil or Does God Permit Evil?
[Re: Green Cochoa]
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07/04/13 12:28 PM
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I see. So you cannot find where I said God is the accuser of the brethren. You have no post of mine to quote where I made such a statement.
The fact is, your statement about what I had said was a lie.
Apology requested. In your mind, does God raise the wicked in order to punish them. If so, then God is the accuser, and executioner. How about Hitler? For example, what kind of havoc did Hitler create? What kinds of torture, experimentation, and death did he cause for millions of people? Yet how did he die? His death was rather painless and quick. Is this "just?" Does it really matter to us how he died? Does it matter to the watching universe? to God? I think it does. I think justice needs to be served. God tells us that vengeance is His, and that He will repay.
God is not satisfied with a lack of judgment and justice. He is a God of justice and judgment, along with grace, mercy and truth. All of these are components of "love." Now please tell me, that this view does not have God accusing Hitler of sin? You want God to raise Hitler, in order to punish him more, to torture him more. God is not like that. THAT is a pagan view of God, a god that needs to torture his enemies. I have nothing to apologize for.
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: Does God Create Evil or Does God Permit Evil?
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07/04/13 02:42 PM
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Blessings,
Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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