"fairly certain"? Why the hedge?

May I paraphrase what you said, then you tell me if I got it right?

Paraphrase of arnold: "I'm fairly certain the wages of sin is execution by God because sin does not kill the sinner".

There - did I get it right?

No. Read the post just above your last one. That should improve your paraphrase. Go ahead and give it another shot.

Yes - I think my paraphrase was right.

You paraphrase the intent of MY statement. I tell you it's wrong. Yet you continue to hold your opinion. You are going to believe what you "think" rather than what the author says.

If you will misinterpret and misrepresent someone who is still able to be asked for verification, and who already told you that you are wrong, I shudder to think what you do to dead people like Moses, Paul, Peter, and EGW. As I said before, you hermeneutic is broken, but you are too arrogant to acknowledge it.

Then correct it in simple terms. Show me where I am wrong. The statement I paraphrased is not clear at all. clear it up.

That shows another one of your problems: You are a selective reader. You pick and choose what you want. And if you read something disagreeable to you, you simply blur your eyes and see what you want to see. A true scientist would be appalled, much more a true theologian.

I already told you what to read. But you choose to remain on shaky ground. Let me spoon feed you what you conveniently missed, which should clear things up if you are an honest investigator:

And who makes the seeds grow and bear fruit? Doesn't the Bible say that we plant the seeds, we may even water, but God is responsible for growth?

If left to my natural desires, I would love to plant the seeds of sin but never let them bear fruit. Apparently, the fruit-bearing is beyond the sinner's control.

Now try to understand what I am saying, rather than forcing your a priori conclusions. Let's try to have a semblance of integrity and objectivity.

Arnold,

If that is a test for APL, should it be cheating to peek at Galatians 6:7?



Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

HOW is it reaped? Does God have to inflict the pain and suffering. After all, sin does not do it, right?

Oh I read it, but still is not clear. That is why I asked for a paraphrase. I'm not sure who is more blind, which of use has the log? I guess you think it is me. You are probably right. But one thing I do know, and that is what kind of God I worship. He was not condescending to those who were the greatest sinners. Sinners were attracted to Him. The theologians of His day however, mocked Him and rejected Him, and did the same to His followers.

Yes, sinners were attracted to Jesus, if you don't count the proud church leaders as sinners. Anyway, if you are attempting to approach truth as a true sinner would, then I would not venture to guess at your success. Since my "Damascus Road" experience, I have never tried to do anything as a sinner would.

And do you know which sin it is to try to interpret an author, then the author tells you that your interpretation is wrong, then you still stick with your wrong interpretation? It is the most incurable of sins.

I'll give my own interpretation when I have more time. Maybe tomorrow. I hope I get it right.