Is there soul that is separate from the whole? NO. Who is it that destroys the body and soul in hell? God is not "the" or "a" destroyer in active sense. He only destroys be letting sinners have their own choice. "God destroys no man" So who is it that destroys the body and soul in hell? "Everyone who is destroyed will have destroyed himself." You indeed have no answer for the quotes I keep bringing forward and charge your blindness on others. Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! ... Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God. In Christ was arrayed before men the paternal grace and the matchless perfections of the Father. In his prayer just before his crucifixion, he declared, "I have manifested thy name." "I have glorified thee on the earth; I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do." When the object of his mission was attained,--the revelation of God to the world,--the Son of God announced that his work was accomplished, and that the character of the Father was made manifest to men. {ST, January 20, 1890 par. 9}

Why does it seem I keep having to post this but it doesn't do any good? But then APL probably has had the same feeling from time to time, too. An understatement, no?



Ex 21:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,

Le 24:20 Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.

De 19:21 And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

Commands, right?

Mt 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Not His will, right?

While I do not approve the Doonesbury comics nor politics nor their messages in general, here's one that does seem relevant to the issue at hand. Check out the 6th panel. Is it arguing against the same concept some here promote of their view about God?

http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2014/02/16#.UxnzxPFL0WP

Sigh... Go back to first principles. God never wanted them to fight. NEVER. They did not listen or obey, they did fight. If they were not going to follow God which they did not, then they would need to do horrible things in order to survive for a time. Did all their war bring them peace? NO. The "commands" you keep quoting are the same as the father giving his daughter instructions in how to minimize the damage. NOTE - it does not eliminate the damage. The first principles are "NO WAR". Love your enemies. Do good to them. Do not repay evil with evil. Turn the other cheek. Christ revealed the truth. Christ is truth.

So you say. But the Bible does not say so. You try to twist EGW to say so. But she does not.


Jesus "commanded" them to "utterly" kill and destroy every man, woman, and child. Minimal damage? Hardly! It was absolute destruction.


Amen. But when Jesus commands utterly killing and destroying every man, woman, and child it best to obey. King Saul found out the hard way disobeying the command to kill everyone is a sin.

I am reposting this because you did not address it:


What "rules" are you referring to? Are you referring to the commandment to utterly kill and destroy every man, woman, and child?

Do you believe Jesus commanded capital punishment and war because the Jews demanded it?

Were any laws broken when they utterly killed and destroyed every man, woman, and child?

Did they sin when they utterly killed and destroyed every man, woman, and child?

I have repeatedly laid out the principles. We are not to fight - for any reason. No war, no fighting, period. You reject that. Thus, you see any command to kill as perfect and just and God's perfect will. Did the war of the Jews ever bring a lasting peace? Nope. God did not want them to fight. Did the Jews follow God? NO. I'll bet you believe they did. Unfortunately scripture does not support that view. Read Ezekiel 20 and Jeremiah 7. They went backwards not forwards. Can you say AMEN? (did not think so)

APL, your response did not answer the questions. Please answer the questions.

Sigh...

There is no way you can expect anyone to extrapolate answers to the questions based on your response.