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Pope says communists are closet Christians
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07/05/14 11:03 PM
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Pope Francis, whose criticisms of unbridled capitalism have prompted some to label him a Marxist, said in an interview published on Sunday Jun 29, that communists had stolen the flag of Christianity.
The 77-year-old pontiff gave an interview to Il Messaggero, Rome's local newspaper, to mark the feast of Saints Peter and Paul, a Roman holiday.
He was asked about a blog post in the Economist magazine that said he sounded like a Leninist when he criticized capitalism and called for radical economic reform.
"I can only say that the communists have stolen our flag. The flag of the poor is Christian. Poverty is at the centre of the Gospel," he said, citing biblical passages about the need to help the poor, the sick and the needy.
"Communists say that all this is communism. Sure, 20 centuries later. So when they speak, one can say to them: 'but then you are Christian'," he said, laughing.
Since his election in March 2013, Francis has often attacked the global economic system as being insensitive to the poor and not doing enough to share wealth with those who need it most.
Earlier this month, he criticized the wealth made from financial speculation as intolerable and said speculation on commodities was a scandal that compromised the poor's access to food."
So according to Francis the only prerequisite to being a Christian is to be poor? Or is it that all Christians are communists? I get confused by the way he jokingly spins things to hide his true motives. "He laughs". UGHHHH
Search me oh God and know my heart, test me and know my anxious thoughts, see if there is any offensive way in me and lead me to the way everlasting. Amen
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Re: Pope says communists are closet Christians
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07/07/14 05:50 PM
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Pope Francis, whose criticisms of unbridled capitalism have prompted some to label him a Marxist, said in an interview published on Sunday Jun 29, that communists had stolen the flag of Christianity. The 77-year-old pontiff gave an interview to Il Messaggero, Rome's local newspaper, to mark the feast of Saints Peter and Paul, a Roman holiday.
He was asked about a blog post in the Economist magazine that said he sounded like a Leninist when he criticized capitalism and called for radical economic reform. "I can only say that the communists have stolen our flag. The flag of the poor is Christian. Poverty is at the centre of the Gospel," he said, citing biblical passages about the need to help the poor, the sick and the needy. "Communists say that all this is communism. Sure, 20 centuries later. So when they speak, one can say to them: 'but then you are Christian'," he said, laughing.
Since his election in March 2013, Francis has often attacked the global economic system as being insensitive to the poor and not doing enough to share wealth with those who need it most. Earlier this month, he criticized the wealth made from financial speculation as intolerable and said speculation on commodities was a scandal that compromised the poor's access to food." So according to Francis the only prerequisite to being a Christian is to be poor? Or is it that all Christians are communists? I get confused by the way he jokingly spins things to hide his true motives. "He laughs". UGHHHH Some people are mentally constipated. As Paul might say, "even to this day, when the news is reported, a veil of false prophecy lies on their heart. Nevertheless when one reads the Bible for oneself, the veil is taken away." (2 Cor. 3:15-16) ///
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Re: Pope says communists are closet Christians
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07/08/14 04:34 AM
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The communist flag flies where I am. Certainly they are not "closet Christians." Few here even know who Jesus is, much less why He died or rose again.
Blessings,
Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: Pope says communists are closet Christians
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Pope Francis...
"I can only say that the communists have stolen our flag. The flag of the poor is Christian...
"Communists say that all this is communism. Sure, 20 centuries later. So when they speak, one can say to them: 'but then you are Christian'," he said, laughing.
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So according to Francis the only prerequisite to being a Christian is to be poor? Or is it that all Christians are communists? I get confused by the way he jokingly spins things to hide his true motives. "He laughs". UGHHHH Pope Francis must read the New York Times "The potential strike by the United States against Syria, despite strong opposition from many countries and major political and religious leaders, including the pope, will result in more innocent victims... "My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal." Vladimir V. Putin is the president of Russia. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinio...l&_r=1&
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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Re: Pope says communists are closet Christians
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07/08/14 11:43 PM
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Pope Francis is a Jesuit. Jesuits believe in the "Liberation Theology". "Church" becomes the people and their needs (both real needs and supposed or what is deemed the "common good" for all), not fundamental doctrines, it is socialist and Marxist in it's position that it is to "right" the injustice and oppression due to capitalism and regards doctrinal theology as speculation.
It's dressing up Marxism as Christianity
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