Elle;
"So the question is are the Feast Days & Sabbaths still binding? These(including the weekly Sabbath) are all are types and shadows. Are we bound to keep these???

For sure a big YES we are bound to keep these spiritually which includes all their related sacrifices. I don't believe any of God's laws were nail to the cross. What was nail to the cross was the extra Jewish laws and all the precepts of man.

I do believe that the form to keep the Sabbaths, the new moons, the Feasts has changed and we are not to keep the literal types and shadows."
(bold emphasis mine)

What does keeping these practices and sacrifices and feasts spiritually mean?!?

I believe we can follow them by faith and live accordingly. Such as the Day of Atonement is present, we should live according to this very solemn time in earth's history.

Excellent post dedication.

I do believe though that spiritually speaking, we should understand the lessons of the typical service and live accordingly.

Amen! And that is what I'm seeing. You merge them together, diluting the Sabbath, and soon it means nothing. In Israel, they were coming away from paganism. But now I see some going toward paganism.

I see the whole movement to do away with the Sabbath. For example, does this mean what I think it does?
Especially taken together with the other thread about sunset and evening. Am I wrong here?

I've seen a feast promoter saying that the Sabbath doesn't begin at sunset, but at sunrise. But not sunrise, sometime before, in the "twilight" of the day. Whether evening twilight, or "dawn" twilight, there is no absolute definite time. It's all subjective to personal feeling of when the Sabbath starts and ends. No rush. No hurry. No burden. No specific demarcation of time. Just whenever you get around to it. They even went further and said "between the evenings" doesn't mean between the evening of the day before and the following day, 24 hours, but it means sometime at one's choosing in the morning until noon. Since the sun is starting to go down after its zenith, that's "evening". Instead of tithe being one tenth of your income and the Sabbath being the larger portion of one seventh of your time, they have reduced it to less than one fourteenth of your time....

What about circumcision? Was that an extra Jewish law or God's law? What about sacrifices?

Why did putting the book of the law in the side of the ark mean?
De 31:26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

Does "against thee" here relate to
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Well I'm not in the Judaiser "feast keeping" movement camp. They are still stuck in the OT view of keeping type and shadows. However, they have nailed to the cross the sacrificial laws as the other SDAs and Christians have done. I don't believe that any laws are nailed to the cross. The literal form of the sacrifices of killing animals have changed to its spiritual meaning and application in our lives as we progress in the path of the plan of salvation. All the instructions and requirements of these sacrifices still remain to be spiritually fulfilled in our body temple. It is still far from these to be fulfilled yet.

I do not advocate keeping the feasts types and shadows, unless you are doing it to get familiar with the law and to try to figure out what are the correspondant spiritual application. Then in that case, keeping the feast is a good exercise to learn. It is also good to keep some aspects of the literal feasts to teach our children as long as the spiritual meanings is the main emphasis and teaching.


As long as you consider all the other Sabbaths with the 7th weekly that the Lord has reveal in scriptures which the focuss is on the plan of salvation and do not blow out of proportion the creation part while ignoring all others. Don't miss out on the Lord's intended message.


Did the Lord instruct this 24 divisions in the law? If so, please provide text. I don't seem to recall that. If this is an Jewish addition to the law, then it has no place in this discussion trying to understand the type.

The thing we should always keep in mind is the law (Pentateuch) reveal a type and shadow. The fact the priests worked more on the Sabbath than any other week days reveal some truth. The fact the priests are not included in the law of Jubilee reveal another truth about the Sabbath. The fact the priests in the law and Ezekiel 44-46 have access to linen garments and do not sweat also reveal another truth about the Sabbath.


Hebrews 7:23 talks about the fallible priests doing the OT literal (type and shadow) services in the OT and compares them to Jesus. Of course those priests were immortal however their types and shadows ministry pointed to the sons of Zadok that Ezekiel 44-46 also points to.

Most Christians (and I think SDAs also) understand Ezekiel 44-46 is pointing to the time of the millennium. During the OT era, yes those priest performing those types and shadows were immortals, however the fulfillment of these after the millennium, these priests will be clothed with immortality. Eze 44(quoted below) says that the corrupt Levites have not access to the linen clothing -- only the sons of Zadok. Zadok means righteousness. The linen garment is the robe of righteousness of the Saints of the Most High. This robe is the immortal and incorruptible garment.

Verse Eze 44:18 says they(sons of Zadok) are not to wear a garment that causes them to sweat like the woolen(dead hair) garment that represents the mortal garment that causes us to SWEAT. After sin, the Lord said to Adam that he will sweat when he works. Mortal men needs to rest (shabath, cease from their work) and have an “intermission” (Shabbath) of time probably because they sweat the other 6 days of the week. When we will be clothed with our linen garment (incorruptible and immortality) we will no longer sweat when we work for the Lord. That’s maybe why, this is symbolized in the type and shadow as the Priests working more on the Sabbath than other days.

If your definition of "faith" is the same as Paul's (Rom 10:17 AV Ro 10:17 "So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word[u]rhema, utterance] of God.") than you are saying the same things as me when I said that we are to keep the Feasts and the types and shadows of the laws (including the sacrifices) between our ears and inside our temple body. Meaning, whatever the Lord interprets these to be and tells us how to apply these from day to day and what to do at His appointed time -- by following His voice(instructions) we keep His feasts and sacrifices as He fufills them in us.



That's the type of question we should ask. Let's take Pentecost as an example. What does the law teaches about it? what is the sacrifice offered during that feast? Knowing these are types and shadows we need to try to figure out via other scriptures describing the symbolism and try to see the spiritual meanings of these. This would be a good exercise.

Would you like to start by listing the main things that the Law describes as Pentecost?

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

What "ordinances" were nailed to the cross?

Forgive me for jumping in. The text is 1 Chronicles 24:19.

Tx for the text Rosangela. Please jump in anytime.

I see that this order was added by David before his death for the new temple. It was not in the law, nevertheless I believe it is also a type and shadow of the coming temple and ministry that Ezekiel talks about.

I don't see in this text any mentions of the purpose of this new order or it being linked to the Sabbath or for the purpose to give some rest to the priests as suggested by dedication. What dedication has said is filling in the gap with a personal interpretation. All we see is a new order with 24 priests. I don't know how many priests there were before hand before this new order. What this means prophetically I don't know but we do see this mirroring the 24 elders around God's throne found in Rev 4. I do know that numbers in the Bible also has meanings and perhaps 24 is the number for the priesthood.

Yet I do not believe this number is to be read literally and is most likely a symbolic representation of the priesthood like 144K is the number representing the overcomers. Twenty four and 144 are multiple of 12 that is shown to be the number representing the government of the kingdom of God.

("Twelve is the number of governmental perfection and divine authority. ... There were 12 sons of Jacob in the Old Testament and 12 apostles in the New Testament. There are 12 foundations in the New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:14). It also has 12 gates and 12 angels at the gates (Rev. 21:12) and 12 pearls at the gates (Rev. 21:21). The city is foursquare at 12,000 furlongs (Rev. 21:16). The wall is 144 cubits high (Rev. 21:17), which is 12 x 12. All of this is to portray the concept of divine government and order.")

I don't think this is saying that the law was nail to the cross, but instead the decree that was issued against us because we transgressed the law. The law is necessary for teaching purposes and to show us our sins and how far we are from the Lord's perfect righteousness.

Paul also said this about the cross : God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; (2col 5:18). I now see Col 2:14 saying what 2cor 5:18 says of not imputing our tresspasses by cancelling the charge or decree that was against us.

Here's many other translations that suggest this understanding:



To me doing away with any portion of the law makes no sense and goes contrary to what many other scriptures says. For an example Ezekiel 44 & 45 talks about sacrifices and offerings that will be done in the functions of the Zadok priesthood which is FUTUR. It also mentions about the feasts as being kept in the FUTUR.