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Re: Global Warming Farce
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06/23/15 09:26 PM
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Johann, Hopefully, as the unsaved world sees the terrible events taking place on the Earth, many will turn to God. I wonder though, will it be as the days of Noah with only a few saved, or with the outpouring of the Latter Rain, will it be thousands or even millions?
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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06/23/15 10:08 PM
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Johann, Hopefully, as the unsaved world sees the terrible events taking place on the Earth, many will turn to God. I wonder though, will it be as the days of Noah with only a few saved, or with the outpouring of the Latter Rain, will it be thousands or even millions? Will we be able to count the saved? An outpouring of the Holy Spirit is promised on all, old and young, male and female wil take part. With the lack of understanding of the Gospel of Jesus Christ among His chosen people, many will leave our ranks and others will join in the final days.
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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06/25/15 08:41 AM
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I listen a fair amount to a guy named Ben Davidson of Suspicious0bservers.org. He is adamantly against the idea of global warming. Yet, the ocean levels are probably two feet higher today than thirty years ago.
There just isn't any other explanation that I know of.
While ice melting would seem to increase sea levels, what I heard "predicted" probably a decade ago is that the sea levels were going to rise an inch in the next 100 years. And they felt that was dramatic. Could be, could not be. But the relevance here is you are saying something totally earth-shattering! Really?! Two feet in the last 30 years! That's simply amazing. I wonder why that's not in the news. Could you show where you got that? I'll try to find that report, It was interesting because these people were Americans, and I think some Europeans, living on a small island. Even though their homes were about three hundred feet from the shore, that only represented about two feet in elevation. Well, now the water has risen to the point it's up to their homes and they will need to leave soon because their children were becoming scared. And yes, this was reported. This was made available to the public. I hope to get back soon. Now some people suggest that the ocean piles up around some islands more than others. But consider that some islands have sunk. Which I recall being reported. And which is a totally different issue than any supposed rising sea levels. Blessings kland, I haven't found what I was actually talking about, but, this is basically the same. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/03/27/world/climate-rising-seas.html?_r=0Some estimates are as high as as 2 feet in 30 years. This is another; http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...climate-change/
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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06/25/15 07:51 PM
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"Sea level rise on the U.S. East Coast has accelerated much faster than in other parts of the world—roughly three to four times the global average, a new study says."
How? Kind of gives a new meaning to so many feet above sea level, doesn't it? As in, above which part of which sea?
Yes the article talks of currents, but isn't that a temporary momentary thing.
Ok, analysis: (based upon what they wrote) Fact: East, 3.8 mm versus 1 mm average. Extrapolation: Could rise 7-11 inches Then a bunch of scaremongering.
Sorry, scaremongering extrapolation of millimeters.
Now the other site said it had raised 10 inches since 1880. Different from what some have said. Which is true?
I recall reading or seeing about Kiribati before. Their problem is sucking out fresh water for crops and other uses allowing salt water to encroach. Then the article I saw took off on rising sea levels. Not the real problem. But gives them publicity for their abuse of natural resources. It's a real problem for them, but nothing to do with global warming or rising sea levels. Their problem would exist even if there was nothing else happening anywhere else. They have multiplied and are taking out more fresh water than they have resources for.
But if you are the governor of the Island, and people have watered their fields with salt-contaminated fresh water because of over pumping of freshwater, and you see you could get some publicity, sympathy, and funding, wouldn't you go for it?
But if before they were talking about an inch over the next century, and they have taxed us more and put on restrictions on things, and now they are saying it's feet over a few years, then it would follow that we can conclude that what they think they are doing to stop it is not working.
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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06/27/15 09:43 PM
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An article, I believe it was on the Planet in Distress website, said there is a correlation between the added mass of water from polar melt in the world's oceans to the recent huge increase in volcanic activity, particularly in the Pacific Ring of Fire. Think of applying pressure to a pimple: pop goes the world!
The inter connectivity of God's creation is amazing. Whatever the cause may be, when one system is degraded every system pays the price. The great domino effect of sin continues to wend its serpentine path, God's voice echoes down through the millennia: "Adam, where are you!".
Alas, the Devil's diversions are spectacular and insidious, while we debate the cause of the changes happening all around us most miss the point. I believe the Lord is trying desperately to get our attention; it would appear, the majority of the world does not hear Him... "
"But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be." Matthew 24:37-39
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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06/29/15 12:07 AM
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kland wrote;
"Now the other site said it had raised 10 inches since 1880. Different from what some have said. Which is true?"
I can only go by that information which is made available. If it doesn't turn out to be true, then of course I will change my mind accordingly.
Unfortunately, we are all stuck listening to reports that may not be trustworthy. Between our government and the other governments of the world and all these different industries, there is very little we can truly trust.
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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This is an interesting documentary about Antartica; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeJiuWkBWzwThey make the point that Antartica receives less precipitation than the Sahara Desert. But, they never ask the question where all that ice came from then!?! Some of the ice is so tall that it actually buries mountains. Yet, without any rain or snow to speak of, where did all that ice come from? But, I'm sure a global flood is impossible. We must consider our sources when reading all this data we get from governments and industries.
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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06/29/15 01:13 PM
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It all boils down to one thing....
Climate Happens.
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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07/01/15 07:13 AM
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Hundreds of wildfires in BC and Saskatchewan, it looks like an old fashioned London fog here in Alberta. 300 wildfires in Alaska and many more in Siberia. As of June 30, Alaska has already broken its all time record for total acreage burnt and there are months of fire season left.
Blackened ground absorbes heat faster, which in turn hastens permafrost thaw, which then increases fire risk. Things are speeding up!
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Global Warming Farce
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07/01/15 12:39 PM
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I recall the SW U.S. had lots of acreage burnt a decade or more ago.
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