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Re: What does "666" represent in Prophecy? [Re: His child] #174942
07/04/15 03:24 PM
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Blessings His child,

Not all the presidents are listed?!?

And I'm not going to add all that up.

That isn't what makes the USA the Image of the Beast. We also need to know that the document "The Word to the Little Flock" doesn't present any contradictions to speak of.

Re: What does "666" represent in Prophecy? [Re: Mountain Man] #174951
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Jesus must return within President Obama's presidency or else the interpretation is incorrect. Let's hope and pray it is not incorrect. Nevertheless, I am confident His Child will persevere and learn a way to adjust his interpretation to account for things if a new president is elected and Jesus hasn't returned.

LOL

Isn't it odd that the whole world completely ignores the interpretation given by the angel? He said, "Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are ... seven kings. Five have fallen, ONE IS, and the other has not yet come" (Rev. 17:9-11) What is the number of the man -- sorry, the head who is king -- the one who IS? There are false prophets everywhere. Men have grown to love the speculation of the blind. To them, the book has become a sealed work of indecipherable letters.

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Re: What does "666" represent in Prophecy? [Re: Godsloveandlaw] #174983
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For two thousand years Christians have been praying, "Come, Lord Jesus".

They may often have thought, This emperor is the last one.

Let's still keep praying, "Come, Lord Jesus".


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
Re: What does "666" represent in Prophecy? [Re: Johann] #174986
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Originally Posted By: Johann
What happens if we get a new US president at the next elections?


What happened in 1843 and 44 when Christ did not come? The Adventists had to go back and see why their understanding of Bible prophecy failed.

But what happens if Iran attacks America's fleet, & President Obama is the American President that does exploits against the Covenant and SDA's fail to do what needs to be done?

My feasting on humble pie will not be nearly as devastating to me as the consequences to the Church if I am right and SDA's just blow me off.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: What does "666" represent in Prophecy? [Re: Alchemy] #174989
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Originally Posted By: Alchemy
Blessings His child,

Not all the presidents are listed?!?

And I'm not going to add all that up.

That isn't what makes the USA the Image of the Beast. We also need to know that the document "The Word to the Little Flock" doesn't present any contradictions to speak of.


As pointed out in the post, the listing of presidents begins with Monroe, who facilitated the Louisiana Purchase and set up thrones in the sparsely populated earth that was added to America in 1803 (5-years after the papacy fell in 1798)

Thanks for asking. Sorry it was not more clear.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: What does "666" represent in Prophecy? [Re: His child] #174991
07/05/15 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: Johann
What happens if we get a new US president at the next elections?


What happened in 1843 and 44 when Christ did not come? The Adventists had to go back and see why their understanding of Bible prophecy failed.

But what happens if Iran attacks America's fleet, & President Obama is the American President that does exploits against the Covenant and SDA's fail to do what needs to be done?

My feasting on humble pie will not be nearly as devastating to me as the consequences to the Church if I am right and SDA's just blow me off.


The date of 1844 was not wrong. It was a misinterpretation of the event, not the timing. If you are wrong, you are completely wrong with no fall back on a misinterpretation of timing. 1844 was not a cry of wolf. Yours would be. Big difference.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: What does "666" represent in Prophecy? [Re: Mountain Man] #174992
07/05/15 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Jesus must return within President Obama's presidency or else the interpretation is incorrect. Let's hope and pray it is not incorrect. Nevertheless, I am confident His Child will persevere and learn a way to adjust his interpretation to account for things if a new president is elected and Jesus hasn't returned.


MM, we've been over this ground before. I have been wrong about some things before and I have been right that Benedict would not be pope in 2013 - HE MIGHT LAST TILL THE SPRING OF 2013?

My view still has room for a new president for less than a year after Obama. But the prophecy that you most likely have not taken the time to study thoroughly in view of the new light presented would show that my posts are solidly based on Bible study. Nevertheless, I am confident you have not helped to get the word of warning out to others by your wishing that Jesus would come on the one hand and doubting that He will come during Obama's Presidency on the other.

Will your faithless doubting account for your lack of studying to show yourself approved of God. When things that prophecy has foretold come to pass differently than you imagined and Jesus returns within Mr. Obama's term or shortly thereafter? Don't be to confident that you can afford to delay to do what must be done while we still have a Mediator pleading for us in the Sanctuary. The sins of omission are just as deadly as the sins of commission.

Christian regards,


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: What does "666" represent in Prophecy? [Re: APL] #174994
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Originally Posted By: APL
Originally Posted By: His child
Originally Posted By: Johann
What happens if we get a new US president at the next elections?


What happened in 1843 and 44 when Christ did not come? The Adventists had to go back and see why their understanding of Bible prophecy failed.

But what happens if Iran attacks America's fleet, & President Obama is the American President that does exploits against the Covenant and SDA's fail to do what needs to be done?

My feasting on humble pie will not be nearly as devastating to me as the consequences to the Church if I am right and SDA's just blow me off.


The date of 1844 was not wrong. It was a misinterpretation of the event, not the timing. If you are wrong, you are completely wrong with no fall back on a misinterpretation of timing. 1844 was not a cry of wolf. Yours would be. Big difference.


Daniel's prophecy identifies President Obama as sure as it identified 1844. But your certainty that this is crying wolf is not unlike the skeptics of yesteryear that denied 1844.

If you are not working to hasten Christ's Advent by searching the prophecy to see if these things are so and promoting them, then you are working to delay His coming and preparing to take the mark of the beast.


"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
Re: What does "666" represent in Prophecy? [Re: Godsloveandlaw] #174999
07/05/15 07:00 PM
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Daniel's prophesy gives us a guidepost as to what is happening in the Heavenly Sanctuary. But most reject it.


Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
Re: What does "666" represent in Prophecy? [Re: Godsloveandlaw] #175002
07/05/15 08:41 PM
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Quote:
Revelation 4 (NIV)
The Throne in Heaven

4 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it.


We need to follow John

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