I hope I am answering this question on time.

As of 1844 with the completion of the 2300 year/day prophecy, there aren't anymore time prophecies. There aren't anymore dates to find or set for all those prophecies have been fulfilled.

There are still prophecies to be fulfilled, but, they will be fulfilled in God's own time.

The closer we get to the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ the more we will probably see people setting dates.
It's one of the enemies tactics to destroy people's faith in the prophecies so of course he is going to motivate people to set dates.

Date setting brings discredit to Bible prophecy. We've seen how it works too many times already. Somebody gets all adamant about a date, or narrows earth's remaining time down to a certain range of dates. People's attention is focused on those dates as "the present truth" they must accept, rather than on their Savior, Jesus Christ.
Those who accept those dates are found talking incessantly about those dates, it pervades everything they seem to think important as "truth".
Then, the time comes and passes and nothing happens.
What is the result? It destroys people's faith in the prophecies, as they have equated prophecy with the speculative opinions so strongly expressed by the date setter.

When true prophecy is shared with them showing that yes, we are nearing the end, no, we don't know any dates, but we do see the signs that Jesus is coming very soon, they say, “Oh sure, I’ve heard that nonsense before,” and they refuse to listen. And the enemy has scored.

Remember the story of the shepherd boy who constantly cried, “The wolf is coming!” and each time the people rush out to help him only to find it wasn't true. Eventually everyone decides to ignore him. And then the wolf came.

The truth is -- Jesus is coming soon. We are in the last days. We need to be aware of that.
But hopefully those seeking to line up the dates of the end, will have learned that is not the way we are to share the urgency of preparing to meet our Savior.

The message stands strong without date setting or speculative "last president" stuff. It must stand strong without date setting and speculation that limits God's time to a presidential reign.


The topic is "rejection of the Testimonies foretold".

The Testimonies state strongly that we are NOT to set dates, as time will never again be a test.

I have been away from the online forums for several years until a couple of months ago, and I have to say the online opposition to the SOP has ratcheted up a lot during that time. I was surprised at how vitriolic most of the opposition has become. I shouldn't have been, but I was.

It's good to see someplace online once again that values the SOP.

Those who deplore are those who ignore.

In this time of earth's history when the very things those messages warned would happen ARE coming to pass, it becomes imperative for the movers of the end time confederacy constructors to ridicule her message and present their own agendas as the "answer" to the world's problems.

The testimonies do stand like a solid wall to shield people from the counterfeits swirling all around us. A protection God has graciously given us for the last days.

Absolutely. We are basically no different than the COI/Jews. I've been studying Jeremiah and Isaiah for the last few weeks and it is amazing what the kingdoms of Isreal and Judah were actually like during the days of Isaiah and Jeremiah. In Jeremiah 5:1 God tells Jeremiah to run through Jerusalem and and see if he can find one honest man. If Jeremiah was able to find that one honest man God would not destroy Jerusalem.

God destroyed Jerusalem. We are approaching that same level.

I agree, spiritually things have been deteriorating online at a faster and faster pace.
Even in the real world, the combat has become much more intense. Here in Canada in the early eighties, I remember attending my first Daniel/Revelation seminar. I don't know the number exactly, but many dozens of people accepted the SOP truth and joined the Church during that single series. During the last two Daniel/Revelation seminars I attended, not a single person accepted the truth, no one joined the Church.

People are being constantly bombarded with so many conflicting views today, they seem to have a much more difficult time discerning truth than in the past. Revelation characterizes the end time opponents of truth as Babylon. Confusion describes today's world, especially the spiritual world, perfectly.

Is it that people cannot discern truth, or that truth is valued far less than it used to be by a large percentage of the population? My life experience over the last few years says it is the latter. Take a look at society in general. People just don't seem to really care about what is true and what is false. They just want to get what they can get.

Yes, it's true to a shocking extent, truth is not valued, as Paul said in 2 Timothy 3:

"...in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God".

It sounds like a perfect description of the year 2017.

I am not surprised that in the general population the truth is not valued.
I did find it very surprising that people who chose to attend a seminar on Daniel/Revelation would not accept biblically sound truth.
They must have sought out the seminar because they desired greater knowledge.
For most attendees, it seemed that the SOP and SDA teachings in general diverged from their preconceived notions too much.

Again, Paul seemed to be describing our time, 2 Timothy 3:7

"Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

And here is a divergence from the SOP that many Adventists take in that God is the source of the destruction of Jerusalem and the wicked in general, but the SOP says NO! How did God destroy Jerusalem? Consider what EGW wrote about the destruction of Jerusalem in AD70:

The Jews had forged their own fetters; they had filled for themselves the cup of vengeance. In the utter destruction that befell them as a nation, and in all the woes that followed them in their dispersion, they were but reaping the harvest which their own hands had sown. Says the prophet: "O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself;" "for thou hast fallen by thine iniquity." Hosea 13:9; 14:1. Their sufferings are often represented as a punishment visited upon them by the direct decree of God. It is thus that the great deceiver seeks to conceal his own work. By stubborn rejection of divine love and mercy, the Jews had caused the protection of God to be withdrawn from them, and Satan was permitted to rule them according to his will. The horrible cruelties enacted in the destruction of Jerusalem are a demonstration of Satan's vindictive power over those who yield to his control. {GC 35.3}

We cannot know how much we owe to Christ for the peace and protection which we enjoy. It is the restraining power of God that prevents mankind from passing fully under the control of Satan. The disobedient and unthankful have great reason for gratitude for God's mercy and long-suffering in holding in check the cruel, malignant power of the evil one. But when men pass the limits of divine forbearance, that restraint is removed. God does not stand toward the sinner as an executioner of the sentence against transgression; but He leaves the rejectors of His mercy to themselves, to reap that which they have sown. Every ray of light rejected, every warning despised or unheeded, every passion indulged, every transgression of the law of God, is a seed sown which yields its unfailing harvest. The Spirit of God, persistently resisted, is at last withdrawn from the sinner, and then there is left no power to control the evil passions of the soul, and no protection from the malice and enmity of Satan. The destruction of Jerusalem is a fearful and solemn warning to all who are trifling with the offers of divine grace and resisting the pleadings of divine mercy. Never was there given a more decisive testimony to God's hatred of sin and to the certain punishment that will fall upon the guilty. {GC 36.1}

Jerusalem was destroyed, but God is not the executioner. The great deceiver has blinded so many Adventists on this point and rejected the testimony of the Spirit of Prophesy.