Thus the cases of the dead and living have been decided.




Since the HOUR allotted to judge the dead and the living have ended should we not be at the end of probation?

In 1989 I had a dream.  Two holy men in heaven were talking discussing the end of the seventy weeks and one said to the other that at the end of that period everlasting righteousness could have been established in Israel if they had accepted the Messiah.  It wasn't until recently that it occurred to me that this implies that the prophecy of Daniel 9 will eventually be fulfilled at the sealing of spiritual Israel. . . .

We are near the fulfillment of Rev 7 but Rev 7 is the fulfillment of Daniel 9. One evidence of this is that there is no historic fulfillment of the seven and sixty two weeks. If all of the particulars of a prophecy haven't been fulfilled, we are to look to the future for a complete fulfillment.

But there is potentially greater evidence that could help confirm or disprove my thesis. The seventieth seven, that is, the 70th Jubilee expires this spring which suggests liberation for the church but judgment for the world. If my calculations are correct I only have a couple of months to see more about whether I'm on the right track.  

Heb 10:35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
Heb 10:36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
Heb 10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry.
Heb 10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
Heb 10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

Thus the cases of the dead and living have been decided.

The work of judgment which began in 1844, must continue until the cases of all are decided, both of the living and the dead; hence it will extend to the close of human probation. {GC88 435.2}

Since the HOUR allotted to judge the dead and the living have ended should we not be at the end of probation?

Green,

There is the Investigative Judgment.
Then the final sealing of the 144,000.
Then probation closes.
Then Christ Comes.

The ending for the time allotted for the Judgment of the dead and the living is not the end of probation as it may appear on the surface. It is a time to bring every cast current before the throne of God.

Then comes the final sealing time. When the final sealing time is ended, probation ends.

There is a specific time allotted for the judgment of the dead and for the judgment of the living. These specific time periods have ended and we are in the final sealing time of the 144000

His Child,

If you think you can know when probation has closed, you are sadly self-deceived. ...
Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Probation Closes
When the Sealing Is Finished


Just before we entered it [the time of trouble], we all received the seal of the living God. Then I saw the four angels cease to hold the four winds. And I saw famine, pestilence and sword, nation rose against nation, and the whole world was in confusion.--7BC 968 (1846). {LDE 228.4}
I saw angels hurrying to and fro in heaven. An angel with a writer's inkhorn by his side returned from the earth and reported to Jesus that his work was done, and the saints were numbered and sealed. Then I saw Jesus, who had been ministering before the ark containing the ten commandments, throw down the censer. He raised His hands, and with a loud voice said, "It is done."--EW 279 (1858). {LDE 229.1}
Only a moment of time, as it were, yet remains. But while already nation is rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom, there is not now a general engagement. As yet the four winds are held until the servants of God shall be sealed in their foreheads. Then the powers of earth will marshal their forces for the last great battle.--6T 14 (1900). {LDE 229.2}
An angel returning from the earth announces that his work is done; the final test has been brought upon the world, and all who have proved themselves loyal to the divine precepts have received "the seal of the living God." Then Jesus ceases His intercession in the sanctuary above. He lifts His hands, and with a loud voice says, "It is done."--GC 613 (1911). {LDE 229.3}

Probation Will End Suddenly, Unexpectedly

When Jesus ceases to plead for man, the cases of all are forever decided. . . . Probation closes; Christ's intercessions cease in heaven. This time finally comes suddenly upon all, and those who have neglected to purify their souls by obeying the truth are found sleeping.--2T 191 (1868). {LDE 229.4}
When probation ends, it will come suddenly, unexpectedly--at a time when we are least expecting it. But we can have a clean record in heaven today, and know that God accepts us.--7BC 989 (1906). {LDE 230.1}
When the work of the investigative judgment closes, the destiny of all will have been decided for life or death. Probation is ended a short time before the appearing of the Lord in the clouds of heaven. . . . {LDE 230.2}
Before the Flood, after Noah entered the ark, God shut him in, and shut the ungodly out; but for seven days the people, knowing not that their doom was fixed, continued their careless, pleasure-loving life, and mocked the warnings of impending judgment. "So," says the Saviour, "shall also the coming of the Son of man be" (Matthew 24:39). Silently, unnoticed as the midnight thief, will come the decisive hour which marks the fixing of every man's destiny, the final withdrawal of mercy's offer to guilty men. . . . {LDE 230.3}
While the man of business is absorbed in the pursuit of gain, while the pleasure lover is seeking indulgence, while the daughter of fashion is arranging her adornments--it may be in that hour the Judge of all the earth will pronounce the sentence: "Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting" (Daniel 5:27).--GC 490, 491 (1911). {LDE 230.4}

HC, you surprised me as well with that statement re the close of probation. You may want to revisit that issue more carefully.

The other day you stated that you're not trying to persuade anyone, only presenting your study results; that only the Holy Spirit can convince and convict. I agree. I like your open mindedness and that you think out of the box - that's refreshing. But when it comes to scripture we need to handle it carefully and vet our interpretations carefully and prayerfully with all of the inspired sources, following the principle that new light will build on old establish light, that "new light" is often really old light that is rediscovered, and testing your ideas with people of experience before running with an idea and publishing it broadcast. It will enhance your credibility rather than detract from it if you couch you posts tentatively as a learner asking your brothers and sisters for their critique of your thoughts. In doing this you're not bending your mind to another individual. At the end of the discussion you'll walk away in a better position to decide if your idea is scriptural even if you still don't agree with anyone else.

I try to follow those rules myself and if and where I haven't I apologize. At times I think I've asserted new ideas too positively before thoroughly vetting them.

The Revelation is a sealed book, but it is also an open book, recording marvelous events that are to take place in the last days of this earth's history. Its teachings are definite, not mystical and unintelligible, and God would have us understand it. {ST, January 11, 1899 par. 5}

“there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space” (Revelation 17:10).

The number 7 indicates completeness, and is symbolic of the fact that the messages extend to the end of time, while the symbols used reveal the condition of the church at different periods in the history of the world. AA 585.3

“The ten horns…are ten kings, which…receive power as kings one hour with the beast” (Revelation 17:12

Mark,

I appreciate the thoughtful counsel.

BUT Why did I make such a statement?

The investigative judgment began 22 October 1844 when the Hour of His Judgment came (cf Revelation 14).



Since the teachings of Revelation are definite and not mystical and unintelligible, that has to be true of the times in Revelation.

Thus an hour is a specific length of time.

An HOUR (cf Strong):
1) A certain definite time
2) The daytime
3) A twelfth part of the day-time, an hour
4) Any definite time, point of time, moment

Definition #1 & #3 help us to identify the length of time in the Judgment Hour that is not mystical and unintelligible in Revelation 14.

The Jewish principle is called Sha’ah Zemanit:
“Proportional hour… Total daylight hours divided by 12.”
(http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/134527/jewish/About-Zmanim.htm)

Jesus referred to it when He asked, “Are there not twelve hours in the day?” (John 11:9). The length of an hour being determined by the length of the day.

Peter and David tell how long a day is.

“One day is with the Lord as a thousand years” (2 Peter 3:8; cf Psalm 90:4).

Since Jesus defined an hour as 1/12th of a day and His disciple follows up that we should not be IGNORANT to define how long a day is, a Judgment Hour (1/12th of a 1,000 year/day) is 83 years and 4 months.

22 October 1844 + 83 years and 4 months ends 22 February 1928.

What was the condition of fallen Babylon (the dead papacy) from 22 October 1844 to 22 February 1928? It was dead. It had received its deadly wound in February 1798 and it had not been healed by 1928.

February 1929 Mussolini began healing the deadly wound by restoring the secular kingdom to the pope. By June 1929, phase 3 of the restoration was completed.

When did the judgment of the dead begin? On the Day of Atonement!

After papal Babylon's wound was healed by Mussolini in mid-1929 when could the Judgment Hour of the living begin? On the Day of Atonement in 1929, which fell on 14 October 1929.

The time allotted for the Judgment Hour of the Living was from 14 October 1929 + 83 years and 4 months which ended 14 February 2013.

Pope Pius XI received the healing of the deadly wound to restore a kingdom the the popes.



Revelation 17 says 5 kings were fallen:
Pius XI
Pius XII
JOHN XXIII
PAUL VI
JOHN-PAUL I

One is JOHN-PAUL II

and one is to come that reigns for a short space BENEDICT XVI

The short space is not defined in Scripture but the spirit of prophecy states:





The condition of the church was that Benedict XVI was allotted a short space which was less than 7-years or the number of completeness.

John-Paul II died 2 April 2005 Thus Benedict began his ascension year that completed John-Paul II's final year in April 2005 through 28 March 20064. Thus Benedict XVI began his first year as the 7th post-1929 solo pope 28 March 2006 and he ruled through 28 February 2013. 1 day and 1 month short of completeness...7-years.

Thus the Judgment hour allotted for the LIVING from 22 October 1929 to 22 February 2013 (83 years 4 months) began with the reign of Pius XI and ended in the reign of Benedict XVI.

“Ten kings [Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, & Clinton)...receive power as kings one hour with the beast” (Revelation 17:12).

The time allotted for the Judgment Hour of the LIVING ended 22 February 2013 and the solo pope papacy from Pius XI to Benedict XVI correlated with that hour. It has ended in that there are now two popes living concurrently as there were 2 kings of ancient Babylon when the kingdom fell to the Medo-Persian kingdom.

Revelation 14 clearly announces that the Judgment hour of the DEAD has begun (22 October 1844) Note that the 1st angel announces the 1844 Judgment Hour Then the 2nd angel states Babylon is FALLEN (even though papal Babylon fell in 1798 before the 1st angel sounded).

In Revelation 18:2 the 2nd angel sounds before the first Angel. 18:5 "For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." When does Babylon's sins reach heaven? When are her sins remembered in Heaven? Is it not when the books are opened during the judgment?

18:6 "Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double."

When is the reward given? Before or after the Investigative Judgment?

19:2 "For true and righteous are His judgments: for He hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication [Benedict resigned because the his priests' fornication---we are at the end of the time allotted for the investigative judgment but in the gap before the pouring out of God's wrath when He dispenses Judgment], and hath avenged the blood of His servants at her hand."

Trying to keep it short. If I missed or added something please tell me.

But HC, March 27 to April 1 didn't work out the way you thought! Have you accounted for that in these conclusions that you have drawn?