No, I wasn't getting into that.

But you did answer my question here. If we have the Bible as infallible, and assuming we can trace THE seventh day from Biblical times to today, then we would know for sure that it matches the Word of God. There would be the implication as to if there were a dateline somewhere then, but not really sure that would be relevant.

Which kind of still leaves the question, should we look for Jerusalem for the Sabbath or our locale but which would conflict with sunset at our locale.

Interesting you'd recommend that. When would you say the day of atonement begins on a round world...?

The tablet of stones, written with God's finger, were put in the ark. The laws written by Moses on parchment, were put in the side of the ark.

If it cannot be shown workable for a round world, it would be further evidence, besides what Paul wrote and had conflict with the Judaizers, that they are not valid today.

Ask 10 neo-Jews when the day of atonement begins and you get 15 different answers.

James, could you show the commandment does not mean to say "THE" seventh day, as in a specific day, but "A" seventh day?

How does that fit in with your idea that each should have their own "A" seventh day?

Since you speak of stoning, how would one know when one's "A" seventh was to be able to enforce this?

Seems that there is "A" seventh day of LORD thy God, that we are to remember and honor.

I did answer that last part as well.
Here
About 2/3 down.

We can know what day is the Sabbath -- but anyone matching "sunset time" to Jerusalem doesn't understand how the day on a round world operates. And I know you know answer.

No -- I didn't say we needed to keep the day of atonement.
My first two points show why we don't keep it.

But if James is convicted that it should be kept -- by all means he should keep it.

According to these letters from the US Naval Observatory and the Royal Observatory in Greenwich the weekly cycle has continued without change "since long before the Christian era."

The Bible never indicates that the cycle for the sabbath ever changed between Moses and the Christian era. Because God identified the sabbath that Moses kept as the same that was blessed at creation, we can be confident that the day we call sabbath now has continued in an unbroken line since creation.



As for whether to look to Jerusalem or anywhere else for the beginning of Sabbath, there would be a problem in ancient times, or even just a few centuries ago, with knowing what time it was while far away.

The ancient Greeks recognized that local time varied by location and tried to work out how to calculate this, but that wasn't until after the Jews had already been to Babylon and back. The calculation, or even knowing that there was a difference, required observing things like solar eclipses in different places and then later comparing notes on what time of day they happened.

So, the Jews in Babylon before those Greek mathematicians couldn't have known the time in Jerusalem, but yet they were able to keep the Sabbath from even to even by local time wherever they happened to be.




Notice that in the calendars given in the first link October 4 of 1582 then skips to October 15 for Spain, Portugal, and Italy, but the day of the week is unaffected. The same happens in the 1752 calendar for English speaking countries with September 2 jumping to September 14.

Do you believe there was a vast body of water at the Creation?

Do you believe that the world before the flood (on the side of Creation) has any resemblance to the world after the flood?

Yes and no.

First the "no". The beautiful Eden like landscapes were gone, the earth was much more rugged and rocky. The temperature changed. The land mass was broken into continents.

Now the "yes" It was the same earth, even though it was ravished by a major catastrophy and flood.

The earth's tectonic plates were broken, thus breaking the land masses into continents. We find the bones of pre-flood animals scattered over all earth's continents.