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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
[Re: Rick H]
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03/14/19 07:35 PM
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Never strive to keep the commandments because you will fail anyway so why try.
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
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Never strive to keep the commandments because you will fail anyway so why try. You are not far from the truth. No one strives to not do something when he is actually enjoying doing something else. An idle mind is the devil's workshop. Jesus said so. " When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. Then he says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.' And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation." Mat. 12:43-45 But LOVE fulfills the law and a humble state is more stable than a high and mighty. James 2:12-13, " So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. For judgment is without mercy to the one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment." It is evident that the LAW OF LIBERTY is compassion and forgiveness with the assurance that compassion and forgiveness will be returned in kind. And where there is compassion and forgiveness, there is peace and happiness.///
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
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03/15/19 02:56 AM
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The now-banned poster "JAK" was no more part of the problem than you or HCH or APL or Alchemy or dedication or anyone else who posts here. IMO he was a lot more honest than most, It would be interesting to hear how it is decided who here is "honest," and who is not??
"The worst foes of my spiritual life have never been hostile circumstance." "There is always a little bit of light" (Micah 7:8) https://www.lightintheclouds.net/wordSincerely, IN Christ; and THROUGH The Spirit - The Wanderer
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
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It is evident that the LAW OF LIBERTY is compassion and forgiveness with the assurance that compassion and forgiveness will be returned in kind. And where there is compassion and forgiveness, there is peace and happiness.[/color]
Just how "evident" that is may depend upon how one looks at it, what is the POV of said "evidence?" There is a time & place for everything, including deciding what is right and wrong. Jesus said it: "Stop judging only by what you see. Judge correctly." John 7:24, NIrV or "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. John 7:24, KJV) But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.(John 3:21)
"The worst foes of my spiritual life have never been hostile circumstance." "There is always a little bit of light" (Micah 7:8) https://www.lightintheclouds.net/wordSincerely, IN Christ; and THROUGH The Spirit - The Wanderer
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
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It would be interesting to hear how it is decided who here is "honest," and who is not?? IMO means In My Opinion... So, from that whole post this is the part you feel needs commenting on? OK then.
"Our vision is often more obstructed by what we think we know than by our lack of knowledge." K. Stendahl
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
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Never strive to keep the commandments because you will fail anyway so why try. You are not far from the truth. No one strives to not do something when he is actually enjoying doing something else. An idle mind is the devil's workshop. Jesus said so. And kill those who you disagree with.
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
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It would be interesting to hear how it is decided who here is "honest," and who is not?? IMO means In My Opinion... So, from that whole post this is the part you feel needs commenting on? OK then. questioning people's "honesty" isnt exactly "unimportant." IMO
"The worst foes of my spiritual life have never been hostile circumstance." "There is always a little bit of light" (Micah 7:8) https://www.lightintheclouds.net/wordSincerely, IN Christ; and THROUGH The Spirit - The Wanderer
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
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Came across my name in this thread even though I never had posted in it. Took the time to read the entire thread. Ellen's comment is worthy of consideration: Not all in this world have taken sides with the enemy against God. Not all have become disloyal. There are a faithful few who are true to God; for John writes: "Here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Revelation 14:12. Soon the battle will be waged fiercely between those who serve God and those who serve Him not. Soon everything that can be shaken will be shaken, that those things that cannot be shaken may remain. {CCh 39.4}
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
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The now-banned poster "JAK" was no more part of the problem than you or HCH or APL or Alchemy or dedication or anyone else who posts here. IMO he was a lot more honest than most, It would be interesting to hear how it is decided who here is "honest," and who is not?? I would ask, how did Christ discern who was 'honest' and true angel of God in the wilderness verses the 'tempter'. That discernment is available to us today... Matthew 4:10-11 King James Version (KJV) 10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.
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Re: Apostasy of a most startling nature....
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The now-banned poster "JAK" was no more part of the problem than you or HCH or APL or Alchemy or dedication or anyone else who posts here. IMO he was a lot more honest than most, It would be interesting to hear how it is decided who here is "honest," and who is not?? I would ask, how did Christ discern who was 'honest' and true angel of God in the wilderness verses the 'tempter'. That discernment is available to us today... Matthew 4:10-11 King James Version (KJV) 10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him. You make it sound so easy. As I reminded Green in another thread: God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. That was contrary to God's teaching. Abraham could have refused to obey because he knew that God would never tell him to do such a thing. But he knew the voice of God, because he had a close relationship with God. Jesus had a relationship with the Father and He discerned error when it was presented to Him. Nadi's discernment is impressive.
"Ignorance is sin, when knowledge can be obtained" (HR, September 1, 1866 par. 3). www.loudcry101.com
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