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Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193755
02/20/21 08:03 AM
02/20/21 08:03 AM
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We are allowed up to 50% in Nova Scotia, which means we can have up to 56 people, which isn't a problem, as our average attendance before Covid-19 was between 25-30.


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Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193784
02/22/21 10:38 PM
02/22/21 10:38 PM
dedication  Online Content
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You are very fortunate if your church can still meet together as normal!

Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193873
03/12/21 12:30 PM
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Who is still closed, as most states are letting churches open or getting ready to reopen shortly.

Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193879
03/13/21 11:00 AM
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dedication  Online Content
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Open? Well yes, but in Canada they limit and control capacity limits. Which means most of the churches are still closed by choice, because most people aren't allowed to attend if the "limit" is observed.
The pastor of an evangelical church who defied the capacity law is still in jail in Edmonton, (Alberta set a 15% capacity limit) because he said he won't enforce the capacity law in his church with has a large active membership. His church continued to meet without him, so now they are summoned to court as well.

Is a church really "open" if only a fraction of the members are allowed in?

Some churches with huge buildings and tiny congregations don't have a big problem as their membership is already below the building's capacity, some with slightly larger membership are coping by having two services and dividing the members between the two services, but many of the churches with larger membership are still closed because turning away members once capacity is reached is too problematic.

Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic? [Re: dedication] #193978
04/14/21 09:19 PM
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dedication  Online Content
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Originally Posted by dedication
Pastor James Coates behind bars for Holding Church

This is religious persecution--- plain and simple!
His crime is holding worship services.
Placed in highly guarded prison where the worst of criminals are kept
No parole unless he promises to stop having church services.

Where is this? China? NO -- this is Canada, Edmonton, Alberta.

Posted the above earlier concerning the GraceLife Church in Edmonton, which refused to follow the 15% capacity limit of people allowed to worship in their church.

Story is getting interesting.

First -- authorities thought they could stop the church members from meeting by imprisoning the pastor.
BUT
The church members simply met without their pastor and had their church service
(still going well above the 15% allowed by my health officials to enter the church)

So the pastor was released (with fines)
And the church was physically barricaded and shut down by police.
Last Sunday there was a big protest.

Hundreds rally outside the blocked church

And it's not getting better:

This strong resistance is rather unusual compared to Alberta's general compliance to all the mandates.
But obviously resistance is growing!

Alberta is going back to PHASE ONE of Covid restrictions, and yes, so many are crushed by the news. Even some people in government protested.
After the province announced last week that it would reinstate harsher pandemic restrictions, 16 MLAs signed a letter of protest.
They are under heavy pressure to "recant".

The plan:
"Enforce the rules so that even if people aren't agreeing with them, they have a reason to obey them."


And yes,
a relative of mine crossed the border from the USA into Canada -- and "oh my" it's crazy !!!!

Detained at the border for one day till Covid test results arrive. He was lucky it was only one day! (The test results were negative)
Told to quarantine at home for 14 days. (Which was expected)
Has to report EVERY DAY, throughout those 14 days to authorities.
Has to take the Covid test again after 7 days, and again after the 14 days.
Threatened, if he doesn't do all these things the fine is $75,000.00

Ya, that's right -- 75 THOUSAND dollars.


His chances of getting covid (which were about nil) went up exponentially with this crazy regime,

Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic? [Re: dedication] #193981
04/16/21 07:22 AM
04/16/21 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dedication
Open? Well yes, but in Canada they limit and control capacity limits. Which means most of the churches are still closed by choice, because most people aren't allowed to attend if the "limit" is observed.
The pastor of an evangelical church who defied the capacity law is still in jail in Edmonton, (Alberta set a 15% capacity limit) because he said he won't enforce the capacity law in his church with has a large active membership. His church continued to meet without him, so now they are summoned to court as well.

Is a church really "open" if only a fraction of the members are allowed in?

Some churches with huge buildings and tiny congregations don't have a big problem as their membership is already below the building's capacity, some with slightly larger membership are coping by having two services and dividing the members between the two services, but many of the churches with larger membership are still closed because turning away members once capacity is reached is too problematic.



Did you catch the framing in the government funded CBC article? The first line accuses protestors of trespassing on First Nation land!
?GraceLife church states its congregants were not at the rally as protesters trespass on adjacent First Nation?.
Never mind the 3 acre property of the church being triple fenced off by RCMP!

For a less biased information source than any of the government funded Canadian MSM, people should take a look at Rebel News. https://youtu.be/-L0DKFOTops


Dedication, your relative is fortunate not to have been detained at one of the infamous quarantine hotels.









"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

Isaiah 49:15-16
Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #194028
05/05/21 09:11 AM
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dedication  Online Content
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Some states in the USA may be getting more relaxed but up in Canada the lock downs are tightening.
According to the news we are in the grips of huge spike (though I don't know anyone who has covid)

Children are reported to be getting the sickness --
But I wonder if it isn't the mask wearing that is causing that.
Kids wearing masks all day in school. They constantly touch that mask transferring all the germs their hands pick up into the mask and then breathing that polluted air into their lungs all day while access to good fresh air is with held.

Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #194033
05/05/21 11:12 AM
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I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm afraid it will be coming elsewhere.

If you still have elections, tell everyone to vote next time.

Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #194042
05/07/21 01:36 PM
05/07/21 01:36 PM
dedication  Online Content
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Oh, but the new restrictions make perfect sense!!! (NOT)

Inside church gatherings are now limited to 15 people.
Unless one of them is dead and then it is limited to 10 people.
And outdoor gatherings (where its actually the safest) is limited to 5 people!

Schools are all closed just days before Mother's Day.
Want to make sure all mother's are made fully aware they are mothers?

Re: Should Churches Close Because Of Pandemic? [Re: ProdigalOne] #194044
05/07/21 07:49 PM
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Interesting, this coronavirus. It only spreads in gatherings above 15 people, but if one is dead, then it spreads above 10! And now it's changed to spreading more so outdoors than indoors.

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