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Originally posted by Mike Lowe:
the weather. But my point is - Who is God? To me He's the kind hearted Father of the Bible, who has killed alot of people over the years. Strange, huh?

A long time ago He used to do pretty spectacular things to get people's attention. Do you see my point?

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Depends how you want to look at it, or how you assign blame. I guess from one perspective God Kills everyone huh? Well we all die don't we?
NO the truth is God Kills Nobody, We kill ourselves, each and everyone of us when we Choose Sin! And we all have done that. If God puts us to rest early so be it, we still made our choices. I see no reason to Blame God After We choose Death He came to save us! Sounds like a great deal to me.

As for spectacular things well, I can tell you he has done so pretty awesome spectacular things in my life!!! And the things he has done in my life are every bit as spectacular and impressive to me as if he had parted the Red Sea, sent manna from Heaven, or brought the dead back to life for me. The more we have faith the more we see His spectacular Works.

Vince 8)

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(I have worked with a client who was convicted of a dreadful crime, and who said to me of his in-laws, who were Adventists, and who forgave him for the terrible trauma he had caused, that he wanted what they had. I was really moved by that.)

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What a WONDERFUL testimony! Thanks for sharing that! To me this shows, Not only who God is, But Who we become when GOD IS IN US!
Again I say AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! PRAISE BE TO GOD!

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~VINCE~ IN ~CHRIST~
SDA-TODAY moderator

This restless world is just illusion
All at once, there’s a message from above
This senseless world of mass confusion ....
In the name of love
There’s a message from above ... (Sammy Hagar 2000)

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Originally posted by zyph:
The still, small work is like the still, small voice. And it is more effective than a magic show. (No disrespect intended.)
Zyph.

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You Hit the nail on the head. Great Point!

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~VINCE~ IN ~CHRIST~
SDA-TODAY moderator

This restless world is just illusion
All at once, there’s a message from above
This senseless world of mass confusion ....
In the name of love
There’s a message from above ... (Sammy Hagar 2000)

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Originally posted by zyph:
[B I believe things will actually change during the latter rain, when individuals experience a revival, and God is able to work in and through them, in a way He can't at present. [/B]

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I don't want this thread to go off the mark too much ok? So let's in this thread try to focus on who God is, and in miracles come up in that context, well then ok. We can have a future topic on both miracles and the Latter rain. Those are great future topics!

On that point (Who God is), as I said before, Miracles happen every day!!!! The Question is do we believe enough to see them?

My bible says...
Hebrews 13
8Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

It is us who Change.

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~VINCE~ IN ~CHRIST~
SDA-TODAY moderator

This restless world is just illusion
All at once, there’s a message from above
This senseless world of mass confusion ....
In the name of love
There’s a message from above ... (Sammy Hagar 2000)

What God is is who God is (sorry if that sounded trivial). Most of us are quick to cite the miracle of peace of mind as evidence our God is the true God. But isn't that rather subjective? And can it really be used as proof of who God is?

Can't the devil counterfeit peace of mind? I realize it can never be as good as the real thing, but does that make it totally bogus? I have quite a few friends and others I know of who are getting along very nicely in life without Jesus. And not just during the good times, but they do really well during the bad times as well. In nearly every respect they are as at peace with life as a good Christian.

I know we're quick to doubt the quality of their peace of mind, and rightly so, however I know them well enough to know that they really are experiencing some form of supernaturally blessed peace of mind. I believe their peace is of the devil to keep them away from Jesus and all, but try to tell them that. Especially when they see so many so called Christians missing the mark and falling all apart when the going gets tough.

So, who is God? God who allows the devil to bless some and curse others? How can we impress non-believers with the truth about life in and apart from Jesus? To me it seems like it's getting harder and harder to win people for the kingdom of God because there are so many other options that seem to work as good as genuine Christianity.

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Originally posted by Mike Lowe:
What God is is who God is (sorry if that sounded trivial). Most of us are quick to cite the miracle of peace of mind as evidence our God is the true God. But isn't that rather subjective? And can it really be used as proof of who God is?

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I don't Know About you... but I am NOT talking about "a peace of Mind" or emotional security. I am talking about genuine real miracles in my life. Occurrences that could only be divine interventions on many number of occasions.

Again, God is the SAME today as He was Yesterday and in biblical times, It is us who change. Have, faith, believe that and you will see 100% real miracles happen. That is MY testimony.

Vince