Many people believe that it is impossible for homosexuals to change. But one man I am aquainted with has changed. He tells his story in a new book. He also has a website where he tells an abbreviated version of his story, along with answering questions and posting articles. He is using the pseudonym of Victor J. Adamson. He tells how God is able to change anyone who submits to Him.

Victor J. Adamsom

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Linda

Linda

This was well worth checking out. Thanks for posting it.

With God, nothing is imposible. (Luke 18:27).

I know one that changed as well.
I have also heard that there are those that don't lose the 'feelings', but, keep it in check and don't submit to the temptation.
They hold onto God with both hands to keep from falling.

Since God had the power to change a sinner like me I believe that He has the power to change a simple problem like homosexuality. There is not problem too big for God.

If homosexuality is caused merely by environment and/or poor choices, then it will be changeable. But what if it is truly genetic? God seldom grows new limbs after they've been severed (we all know He wants to), and He seldom intervenes in genetic health issues.

What He does provide is power to live within His boundaries. The world loses its attraction. But congenital defects are seldom changed, and we live with them, in His strength.

When we push the issue of outward change - i.e., the homosexual must become attracted to women - we are inflicting cruelty, I believe. Surely a homosexual person can be free to be disabled?

Zyph:
Looks like we are haveing quite a running discussion tonight. I believe that God can heal both moral and genetic sins. I believe that homosexuality has both components in some people. In any case there is no problem too big.
I did like your point that God can heal but that person may not be attracted to the opposite sex. If not then they may have to live in a manner like Paul - sort of a Nazarite vow of sexuality rather than wine. So the idea of healing from sin but still haveing an amputation, so to speak, would seem to fall within the Bible parameters. But, again, I believe that we can go to the throne of God and He is able and willing to give us more than we can think or ask. Until I hear from the mouth of God "no" I want to press forward and get all the healing that the faith of Jesus can acquire for me today. I would like all my homosexual brothers and sisters to come to the throne of grace with me. Jesus came to save sinners, and I have more sin in my life than what the homosexual has. Again, since He has healed me, I believe that He can heal homosexuals as well. AMEN!

It's nice to encounter someone in "real" time, Greg!

I think we have some serious lessons to learn about the plight of homosexuals - and the way God estimates sin.

While I agree wholeheartedly with you about God's power, and I know His ultimate will is restoration, I see more changed lives than bodily cures.

Let's just treat those who reveal such issues to us as the Lord would. (I'm not talking about active sinning, here. But the golden rule should still apply.)

Agreed!

Great news y'll, Jesus completely heals even the maimed. There are two senerios running. Physical maiming & spiritual maiming. Jesus heals both completely, but treats the person differently in the process of how much he requires the person to cooperate in that process.

Matthew 15:30 And great multitudes came unto him, having with them those that were lame, blind, dumb, maimed, and many others, and cast them down at Jesus feet; and he healed them:

Matthew 15:31 Insomuch that the multitude wondered, when they saw the dumb to speak, the maimed to be whole, the lame to walk, and the blind to see: and they glorified the God of Israel.

Matthew 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.

Mark 9:43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Luke 14:
13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:
14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.
15 ¶ And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.
16 Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many:
17 And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready.
18 And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused.
19 And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused.
20 And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.
21 So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind.

Matthew 12:15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all;

Luke 6:19 And the whole multitude sought to touch him: for there went virtue out of him, and healed them all.

Mark 14:
47 And one of them that stood by drew a sword, and smote a servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear.
48 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Are ye come out, as against a thief, with swords and with staves to take me?
49 I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
50 And they all forsook him, and fled.
51 And there followed him a certain young man, having a linen cloth cast about his naked body; and the young men laid hold on him:
52 And he left the linen cloth, and fled from them naked.
53 ¶ And they led Jesus away to the high priest: and with him were assembled all the chief priests and the elders and the scribes.

Luke 22:
50 And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear.
51 And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him.

John 18:
10 Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus.
11 Then said Jesus unto Peter, Put up thy sword into the sheath: the cup which my Father hath given me, shall I not drink it?

John 18:
26 One of the servants of the high priest, being his kinsman whose ear Peter cut off, saith, Did not I see thee in the garden with him?

How much of Malchus's ear stayed severed after Jesus physically healed him?

Does Jesus require the physically maimed to co-labor and try as they might as He touches them inorder that He might recreate their body parts that were damaged or missing ?

Inspiration does not show that there was anything that they could do, but to come, ask, believe, receive. Their sympathies toward their old life could not restore their physical body parts.

But now looking at the mind, heart, personality, character, desires, habits, propensities, ect. These things unlike physical body parts being maimed - are something a person can choose put away or to retain by useing or refusing to use God's power and tools and watching unto prayer that they enter not into these temptations. The maiming here is not physical but spiritual and under the decision making power of the person who chooses to unite with God or stand aloof.

Sexual transgression covers propensities, character, habits, desires, thoughts, feelings, actions . That's alot to apply God's power and tools upon. Bringing your personal sympathies for whatever your sins are requires trusting by faith instead of feelings, that involves time and human effort to decide to put all the faculties of the heart & mind & being into the hands of God.

Too often people feel like they are destroying who they are & the task is so complex and large they give up.

Sex feels so good in their mental and physical sensations and imaginations that too often feelings become more important that faith. Even so Jesus and His abilities and yearnings toward us all do not waver. Scripture is still true.

The ringing question is "HOW MUCH IS UTTERMOST?"

Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

This says it all. It is called the "Lamb of God" notice the color of the lamb.

http://www.onlineartmall.com/htms/ngr0014110000.htm

Sexual sins or not, we are that lamb.

[ December 28, 2001: Message edited by: Edward F Sutton ]

Ed, if things are a matter of choice only, then of course God will change them. If you believe homosexuality is, by definition, behavioural sin, then you will expect a complete change, including absence of further attraction to those of the same sex, and a replacing of these feelings with attraction to the opposite sex.

But some homosexual people say they have been that way since childhood, that they believe it is genetic, and that after conversion, they are still sexually attracted to members of the same sex. They agree that active participation in that lifestyle is an abomination - as is heterosexual sex outside of marriage I'd like to add - and they live lives controlled by the Holy Spirit. But just as a saved alcoholic is alcoholic forever, so a saved homosexual - if the condition is congenital - is homosexual forever. Paul's thorn in the flesh was never removed by God. And there are few stories around regarding genetic miracles wrought by the Lord. There are, however, abundant stories of victorious new lives.

Can you imagine how disappointing it must be for people in wheelchairs if they are constantly "egged on" to pray for healing - but it never comes? Don't you think we do this to people on a regular basis? We think sexual sin is such a biggie, that we believe God will "cure" people of all these inclinations. We never expect Him to cure a heterosexual person of being attracted to members of the opposite sex. We simply expect Him to empower them to live righteous lives. Because that is somehow less of an abomination. We do not expect wheelchair-bound people to hide their disabilities or their wheelchairs, but if a homosexual person - who says they are a child of God, and not actively sinning - is open and honest about their disability, we are scandalised. We point out that others have been cured, implying that if they aren't, it must be choice.

I don't believe sexual matters are polite conversation in most settings. So things like this shouldn't come to our attention much. But if someone says they no longer smoke cigarettes, but they really feel like a cigarette at times, we nod our heads in understanding and sympathy. Can't we treat homosexuals with the same respect, and until we know otherwise, accept what each individual says about their own experience?

When you say this, Ed:
"The maiming here is not physical but spiritual and under the decision making power of the person who chooses to unite with God or stand aloof" , you are stating that you believe sexual attraction is optional, and homosexuality is the result of life choices. Therefore you believe all homosexuals can change the way they respond to members of their own sex. But my experience with men who say they are homosexual (in a counselling and welfare setting) has convinced me that some do not make a choice about their sexual desires, and they have been like that since young children. They would happily opt to be heterosexual if it were that simple. Of course God's power is sufficient for these poor people. He speaks, and it is formed. And Paul - the great champion of faith - should have had enough faith for God to heal his thorn in the flesh. But it wasn't in God's plan.
I think we will have our bodies of flesh - with the capacity for low blood sugar, illness, and inappropriate sexual feelings - until the Lord's return. I think God will sometimes intervene with a miraculous cure, but if He says "no" to growing new legs on a paraplegic, we should not shun the paraplegic as somehow less of a christian than others.