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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/06/06 09:09 PM
10/06/06 09:09 PM
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Hey, whatever floats your boat.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D. No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/07/06 03:18 AM
10/07/06 03:18 AM
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Daryl, the reason I'm asking you the questions I am is because I am curious to see if you think that God is able to communicate with us supernaturally. From your latest response to me it appears that you actually do think God can and does communicate with us supernaturally, but you have a different interpretation for "supernatual" than others do. But hey, whatever floats your boat. If God communicates to us through His Spirit, this would be supernatural, according to the ordinary dictionary defintion of the word. It is His taking the volition as a personal being to communicate with us through language, our language, as opposed to our simply perceiving something about Him by the study of nature. Do you agree that God communicates to us by these means (through our language)? As to why God became a human being, that was clearly so that we could better understand what He is truly like. To understand a person involves more than what a person says, but what He does, and seeing what God would do if He were a person is certainly the clearest way He could reveal Himself to us. That doesn't mean He couldn't communicate with us through other means, however; just that becoming a human being was the clearest revelation of all.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/07/06 06:09 PM
10/07/06 06:09 PM
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Tom, if I came to you as what I am not then that does not help you to get to know me better. It may help me to get to know you better if I come to you as what you are but it would not help you to get to know me better. So, your suggestion that God came as man so we could get to know Him better fails as a viable response.
To suggest that God is supernatural ignores that fact that we were made in His image. God is as natural as everything else. We made up that word and it makes no rational sense. Insisting on its use only serves to darken our understanding of our Creator.
Here is my question for you. What message do you think the Creator would want to give you that would require this communication you are describing? Is it that the intelligence He created us with is not sufficient even in the face of much counsel?
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D. No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/07/06 06:57 PM
10/07/06 06:57 PM
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Darius,
Have you ever had a dream from God?
Well, Nebuchadnezzar had a dream straight from God, and, in response to Daniel's prayer, gave the same dream to Daniel.
This was obviously God communicating to both Nebuchadnezzar and Daniel through a dream, which God obviously implanted into their minds. Nebuchadnezzar forgot the details of the dream, whereas Daniel didn't.
This is one example of God communicating to man through man's mind.
I am reminded of Joel 2:28 which says, "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:"
As far as our senses goes, God does communicate to us through some of our senses, such as our sense of sight, as we use our eyes to read His Holy Word, and through our sense of hearing, as He uses our ears to hear the Word of God.
God isn't limited to how He communicates with us, therefore, if God wanted to communicate the Scriptures, which He wanted to do and He did do, then He can do it through His people, which He did through Moses and the other writers of the Scriptures, both Old Testament and New Testament.
EGW is our latest example on how God communicated to her from which we have her writings.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/07/06 08:12 PM
10/07/06 08:12 PM
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Daryl, I don't get what point you are trying to make. On whose behalf are you campaigning? If God gave you a message then follow it. I know that He won't give you any messages for me. He and I are on speaking terms and He knows my snail mail address and my E-mail addres. I don't get the point.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/07/06 08:13 PM
10/07/06 08:13 PM
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That was me above.
Now, please tell me how you read the Bible without using your senses.
Last edited by Darius; 10/07/06 08:15 PM.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D. No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/07/06 08:20 PM
10/07/06 08:20 PM
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You are right in that God gave me a message, which came to me through the Scriptures.
And yes, you are right again, as He also knows my snail mail and email addresses, however, that isn't how He communicates to us, although He has the power to do so, if He so chooses.
And yes again, you are also correct in that you don't get the point, which is why it is practically pointless to communicate with you any further on this topic.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/07/06 08:27 PM
10/07/06 08:27 PM
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Now, please tell me how you read the Bible without using your senses.
I missed this until after I posted.
Yes, you are correct I do receive messages from God through the reading of the Bible using my sense of sight.
I can even sniff my Bible and smell it.
I can also hear myself turning the pages of the Bible, which uses both my sense of touch and sense of hearing.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/07/06 09:28 PM
10/07/06 09:28 PM
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You still cannot prove that God wrote the Bible. Everyone knows that men compiled the Bible. The point is that the Bible is not the only place were we can find messages that men received through inspiration. In fact, all knowledge men have received is through inspiration. This attempt to place a division in the knowledge the Creator has given to his children has had disastrous consequences. All knowledge is the same because all knowledge comes from above. A difference in purpose does not imply a difference in quality.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/07/06 10:14 PM
10/07/06 10:14 PM
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I didn't say that God wrote the Bible all by Himself.
God inspired men to write the Bible for Him, making God the Ultimate Author of the Bible.
God could have written it Himself, however, He chose to inspire men to write the Bible for Him.
That's how God works, as He chooses to work through fallen mankind to proclaim His message of love, redemption, justice, mercy, etc. through the inspired Word, the Bible.
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