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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/08/06 12:13 AM
10/08/06 12:13 AM
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How about John 5:39 for starters, quoted below:
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John 5:39 KJV Search the Scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Christ told us in the above verse to search the Scriptures, which, of course, refers to the Old Testament, which includes Genesis.
you used the KJV which is not the correct rendering of that passage.... the passage should read, You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life. And they are the ones witnessing of Me, (40) and you will not come to Me that you might have life.
Jesus was telling them that they had searched and were searching/studying the scripture but that the scriptures testified of him....
Where there is life, there is hope....
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/08/06 06:40 AM
10/08/06 06:40 AM
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Darius, it seems to me that you are just pursuing a play on words (regarding "natural" and "supernatural") I'm asking you about what you think of God's intent and how He communicates with us. Do you think God communicates with us other than by our perceiving things about Him in nature? If so, how?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/08/06 01:28 PM
10/08/06 01:28 PM
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Tom, if the Creator has a need to communicate with me on a specific matter then He has a million means at His disposal. The fact is that I have no way of being certain that He is the one speaking to me, so what does it matter what I believe? It is not as if He has some dedicated line on which He speaks. I really don't get what you guys are trying to establish here.
Last edited by Darius; 10/08/06 01:29 PM.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/08/06 01:32 PM
10/08/06 01:32 PM
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I didn't say that God wrote the Bible all by Himself.
God inspired men to write the Bible for Him, making God the Ultimate Author of the Bible.
God could have written it Himself, however, He chose to inspire men to write the Bible for Him.
That's how God works, as He chooses to work through fallen mankind to proclaim His message of love, redemption, justice, mercy, etc. through the inspired Word, the Bible.
Who do you think inspired other men to write what they have written. You speak about how God works as if you have a document from Him with that information. This tendency men have to make claims about God as if they have inside information comes very close to blasphemy. If God did not tell you this is how He works you are presuming upon His position to make that claim.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/08/06 07:09 PM
10/08/06 07:09 PM
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Tom, if the Creator has a need to communicate with me on a specific matter then He has a million means at His disposal. The fact is that I have no way of being certain that He is the one speaking to me, so what does it matter what I believe? It is not as if He has some dedicated line on which He speaks. I really don't get what you guys are trying to establish here.
I'm trying to establish whether you think God communicates to us in some other ways than through nature. I find your assertion that if God chose to communicate with you that there is no way you could be certain it was He to be amazing. To think that God could create the world in seven days but cannot communicate with Darius in such a way that Darius knows it is He is hard to fathom.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/08/06 07:34 PM
10/08/06 07:34 PM
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No need to be smug. I want you to tell me what God could do that would leave me with no doubt that He was the One speaking to me. I am all ears.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/08/06 11:51 PM
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What did I write which struck you as smug? That's an odd reaction.
I find it odd that you think God is incapable of communicating with you in such a way that you know that it is He who is speaking to you. Why don't you explain to me why you think that it not possible?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/09/06 12:51 AM
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The fault is not his but mine. If He came with a name sign how would I know it was Him. Why don't you tell us how you would know.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
[Re: Darius]
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10/14/06 07:48 PM
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Tom, if the Creator has a need to communicate with me on a specific matter then He has a million means at His disposal. The fact is that I have no way of being certain that He is the one speaking to me, so what does it matter what I believe? It is not as if He has some dedicated line on which He speaks. I really don't get what you guys are trying to establish here. God does have a dedicated line; I am surprised that you have not heard about it, it is called the Bible. It is our direct line of communication to the Almighty God, to us that believe anyway. It shows us what Gods will is for us and it is full of His promises to us. God is as good as His Word and His word cannot fail. Daruis, you like to play with words and twist a lot of things and get side issues going and you very rarely really answer, truly answer questions that are put to you. Instead you sided step them, this I will say that you are very good at, side stepping the issues. Does God still speak to us humans today? YES, I say, through His written Word, by the Holy Spirit He speaks and impresses yes, through inspired writers old and new. Through nature he shows us His awesome power and presence. In the birth of a new born and even in death God shows use His love and power. He touches our hearts and mind in these ways and many more. If a question is put to you, why not simply answer the question Daruis? This is one question that you can answer to yourself. So you are off the hook. Peace and Grace David
The greatest want of the world is the want of men-- men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
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10/17/06 05:30 PM
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God's dedicated line is NOT the bible... it is prayer.... some people are uncomfortable with the idea that God speaks to us, communicates with us via prayer, but I am not one of them....
Where there is life, there is hope....
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