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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
[Re: Davros]
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09/24/19 06:11 AM
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This conversion is getting rather silly. Nowhere in the postings is there a hint that intimate relationships between husband and wife here on earth are limited only to making babies. Marriage is marriage here on earth -- and should include all that marriage is -- love, companionship, sharing, caring and intimate relationships. Do they think that by saying there will still be companionship and good friendship in heaven that this somehow can't happen without marriage???? Or is APL saying in heaven sex will be some kind of free for all without marriage??? Since he agrees there will be no marriage, but seems to have a big problem with the other. Come on guys -- marriage here on earth, is meant to be a safe place for sex and child rearing. Marriage is a commitment to ONE PERSON for life. (If you follow God's purposes) Sex outside of marriage wrecks havoc to emotional health and is called SIN in scripture. That's one of the ten commandments. Scripture is plain -- no marriage or giving in marriage, Those are the words of Jesus, Himself. And yes, Daryl's quote,, as well as rational thought, should settle things once and for all -- NO marriage -- means no sex -- and no births. Plain -- clear -- simple. The quote goes on to say "The Lord has made every provision for our happiness in the future life" but "we are not to speculate concerning them. Neither are we to measure the conditions of the future life by the conditions of this life." =There are men today who express their belief that there will be marriages and births in the new earth; but those who believe the Scriptures cannot accept such doctrines. The doctrine that children will be born in the new earth is not a part of the "sure word of prophecy" (2 Peter 1:19). The words of Christ are too plain to be misunderstood.
They should forever settle the question of marriages and births in the new earth. Neither those who shall be raised from the dead, nor those who shall be translated without seeing death, will marry or be given in marriage. They will be as the angels of God, members of the royal family. {1SM 172.3}
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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09/24/19 09:16 AM
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This conversion is getting rather silly.
Nowhere in the postings is there a hint that intimate relationships between husband and wife here on earth are limited only to making babies.
there is no sex in the family ONLY AND EXCEPT for the father and mother in procreation I think we were talking about your speculations of associating sin with sex. Scripture is plain -- no marriage or giving in marriage,
Those are the words of Jesus, Himself.
And yes, Daryl's quote,, as well as rational thought, should settle things once and for all --
NO marriage -- means no sex -- and no births.
And no baby tigers, no pollen, no seeds, no honey bees, and no butterflies. Plain -- clear -- simple.
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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09/24/19 06:28 PM
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I think we were talking about your speculations of associating sin with sex.
????????????????? [ Come on guys -- marriage here on earth, is meant to be a safe place for sex and child rearing. Marriage is a commitment to ONE PERSON for life. (If you follow God's purposes)
Sex outside of marriage wrecks havoc to emotional health and is called SIN in scripture. That's one of the ten commandments. Remember Jesus said there is no marriage in heaven...... Scripture is plain -- no marriage or giving in marriage,
Those are the words of Jesus, Himself.
And yes, Daryl's quote,, as well as rational thought, should settle things once and for all --
NO marriage -- means no sex -- and no births.
We don't know what God has planned -- The topic is called "the supposed lack of marriage in heaven" -- We don't have to "suppose" what Christ has said would NOT be in heaven. Whether God creates butterflies and honey bees or creatures we don't even know about on a different system -- that is purely speculation --- and quite unimportant for us to argue about. . We need to trust God's promise ""The Lord has made every provision for our happiness in the future life" but "we are not to speculate concerning them. Neither are we to measure the conditions of the future life by the conditions of this life."
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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09/24/19 09:08 PM
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We don't know what God has planned AH - some truth! Why then do you SPECULATE what it will be like in the New Earth? It is certain that marriage we have today is NOT what God had planned. Just like the priesthood of Christ is more excellent that what came before - Do you know what the difference is?
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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09/25/19 05:02 PM
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I think we were talking about your speculations of associating sin with sex.
????????????????? The topic is called "the supposed lack of marriage in heaven" -- We don't have to "suppose" what Christ has said would NOT be in heaven. So why did you speculate that sex was invented because God planned on us sinning? Was that just a wild goose chase?
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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09/26/19 09:59 AM
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We don't know what God has planned AH - some truth! Why then do you SPECULATE what it will be like in the New Earth? It is certain that marriage we have today is NOT what God had planned. Just like the priesthood of Christ is more excellent that what came before - Do you know what the difference is? the difference? about the priesthood? of course whereas the priesthood of men ended upon death, that of christ was everlasting. "The Lord has sworn and will not relent, You are a priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek." psalm 110:4
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Re: "Heaven and the Supposed lack of Marriage"
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I think we were talking about your speculations of associating sin with sex.
????????????????? [ Come on guys -- marriage here on earth, is meant to be a safe place for sex and child rearing. Marriage is a commitment to ONE PERSON for life. (If you follow God's purposes)
Sex outside of marriage wrecks havoc to emotional health and is called SIN in scripture. That's one of the ten commandments. Remember Jesus said there is no marriage in heaven...... Scripture is plain -- no marriage or giving in marriage,
Those are the words of Jesus, Himself.
And yes, Daryl's quote,, as well as rational thought, should settle things once and for all --
NO marriage -- means no sex -- and no births.
We don't know what God has planned -- The topic is called "the supposed lack of marriage in heaven" -- We don't have to "suppose" what Christ has said would NOT be in heaven. Whether God creates butterflies and honey bees or creatures we don't even know about on a different system -- that is purely speculation --- and quite unimportant for us to argue about. . We need to trust God's promise ""The Lord has made every provision for our happiness in the future life" but "we are not to speculate concerning them. Neither are we to measure the conditions of the future life by the conditions of this life." The question becomes what will change, and why....
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