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Re: Are the writings of EG White equal to the BIBLE ?
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06/23/06 10:02 PM
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I havent studied her books enough to say if they contain unbiblical concepts or not.
I would say Peter, Paul and John where inspired to write what would be "standard of character, test of experience, authorative revealer of doctrine and a trustworthy record of God's acts in history."
Paul wrote of prophets to come:
1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
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1Co 14:3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
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Re: Are the writings of EG White equal to the BIBLE ?
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06/27/06 02:58 PM
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Why do you believe Peter, Paul, and John's epistles contain inspired insights?
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Re: Are the writings of EG White equal to the BIBLE ?
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06/27/06 07:04 PM
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Peter and John walked with Jesus for 3 years and then the rest of their lives with the Spirit. Paul as we know meet Jesus and was choosen as an apostle by Jesus. The bible witness is in their favour. There are historians who have studied the historicity of the biblical books. I have read one of them that was conserned about the NT books. The author made a good cause for their authenticity(sic). The unison of voices from church history testify in their favour. But ultimately it is faith. I choose to believe that all these witnesses are telling the truth about these three people and I choose to believe that they where choosen by God to bring the truth about Him to all who would listen.
Why do you believe they wrote inspired epistles/gospels?
Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Are the writings of EG White equal to the BIBLE ?
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06/28/06 11:11 PM
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I believe they are inspired because I want to believe. I choose to believe. The same thing applies to the SOP. I beliee she is inspired because I want to. Yes, there is evidence to support my belief. But in the end it is because I want to believe.
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Re: Are the writings of EG White equal to the BIBLE ?
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06/30/06 12:40 AM
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The question isn't about inspiration as both the Bible and the writings of EGW are inspired.
The question isn't about inspiration, it's about authority.
All other inspired writings are to be examined by the Bible.
Further still, even the New Testament is to be examined by the Old Testament. Even Paul stated that to the Bereans.
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Re: Are the writings of EG White equal to the BIBLE ?
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06/30/06 01:23 AM
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But why? Who said so? Why do you believe the OT is inspired and authoritative? Doesn't it boil down to faith? You want to believe. You choose to believe. The fruit of faith feels good. It rewards and satisfies.
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Re: Are the writings of EG White equal to the BIBLE ?
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06/30/06 01:24 AM
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Christ, for One said so about the only Scriptures that existed back then.
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Re: Are the writings of EG White equal to the BIBLE ?
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06/30/06 06:54 AM
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Mike is bringing up a good point. The Scriptures nowhere say what the Scriptures are. This has come down to us by tradition. We read what tradition has said is inspired, and come to a conclusion as to whether it is inspired or not. We don't make this decision based on authority, because there is no authority to base the decision on until *after* we believe. So we make the choice to believe, based on whether we think we should or not.
Similarly with Ellen White. There's nothing in Scripture which tells us to believe in Ellen White's writings. Now we can compare them with Scripture, and should, to see if they agree or not, but that's not how people make the decision to believe in her. It's because there is something special about the writings which bears witness to our spirit that her words are not just human words. We sense the Spirit of God is involved, and choose to believe. We can't believe on the basis of authority, because there is no authority which tells us to believe her writings, outside of her writings themselves.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Are the writings of EG White equal to the BIBLE ?
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06/30/06 04:30 PM
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Amen, Tom. Reading what Jesus said about the OT requires faith, too. I choose to believe the NT writers quoted Jesus accurately, or close enough. There are as many Bible believing religions in the world as there are stars in the sky (not really). Each one believes their version or translation of the truth is right and correct. So, I have come to the conclusion that the SOP was necessary to get us on track and to keep us on track. Without it, we are no better off than any other religion.
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Re: Are the writings of EG White equal to the BIBLE ?
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There are as many Bible believing religions in the world as there are stars in the sky (not really). Each one believes their version or translation of the truth is right and correct. So, I have come to the conclusion that the SOP was necessary to get us on track and to keep us on track. Without it, we are no better off than any other religion.
Mike
To paraphrase you, Ellens writings makes SDAs "holier than them". Quite honestly, ought not such a difference be about Jesus and nothing else?
/Thomas
Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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