I wonder what reactions this text will get: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327

Thomas

Hello Thomas, Abuse in foods can produce different behavior(s). For many of us have learned that if we are not properly nourishing our systems we will be imbalanced.

With all things we are not to over indulge/abuse our sytems. The Lord created many different types of fruits, nuts and vegetables to eat freely from. Through study we may find that each one produces different attributes for our health. So therefore we must return to temperance for our standard and consider enjoying more than one type of fruit, vegetable or nut.

Again, it comes back to whether or not we will be temperate in the things which are called good by God.

• 1 Corinthians 9:25 "And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible."

Thank you sharing the article.

Your Sister in Christ Jesus,
Cheri

First of all, I personally didn't feel that Tammy was questioning my faith in what she posted. If I did, I would have responded accordingly.

In response to her question though, if I see a Bible text that contradicts a SOP quote, I will take the Bible text over the SOP one, but only after careful research and study. This is the way EGW would want it to be done. After saying this, in all my 31 years as a Seventh-day Adventist, I never came across one that looks like a clear contradiction until now, which is why I need to look at this in relation to other Bible texts, context, etc. as well as other related EGW quotes. As this may take me some time to accomplish, please don't expect a quick response.

It takes 2 Cheri.
God Bless,
Will

Tammy,
I thought that is has gone sour due to your questions, which is why I asked you. Or was it too much for me to ask?
God Bless,
Will

Hello Sister Cheri,

Thank you for your diligence, patience and calm spirit in sharing this topic. I agree with your study, based upon Daniel 1, Genesis 1 and EGW's consistent description of Daniel's life. Many of these texts have been posted by Tammy, Daryl and Crater.

I had overlooked Daniel 10:3, and I am glad Will has revealed the text. On the surface it does not appear to harmonize with our understanding. It is possible that EGW was wrong in her many strong statements regarding Daniel's life-long example of temperance. But these are not passing comments. They present the vital testimony of a sanctified life in the court of Babylon, one who would rather die than compromise principle. I submit that Daniel 10:3 can harmonize with this principle. All should consider the possibility before discounting the body of inspired evidence.

Daniel was in mourning three full weeks. (Daniel 10:2)

Jacob rent his clothes and mourned for his son many days. "He refused to be comforted..he said..I will go down into the grave unto my son mourning. Thus his father wept for him." (Genesis 37:35)

"Samuel mourned for Saul" (1 Samuel 15:35)

Nehemiah "sat down and wept, and mourned certain days and fasted" (Nehemiah 1:4)

Daniel 10:2,3

"In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks."

KJV: "I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled"

Paraphrase: "I ate no desirable food, neither did I resort to the flesh food and bubbling wine of the heathen, neither did I anoint myself three full weeks."

Often in times of mourning, sadness or fasting, one is tempted to resort to those things which are not kosher, not approved for consumption, the dainties of the world. This will vary with individual as the Spirit leads, but will always agree with the spirit of the written Word.

In His great trial of temptation, Jesus would have failed if he had turned the stones to bread in the wilderness. (Matthew 4:3)

The Israelites sinned in their time of weeping; influenced by the mixt multitude they died with quail in their teeth. (Numbers 11:33)

But Daniel affirms that he did not fall prey to such temptation, though such food surrounded him. In time of prolongued mourning he maintained integrity of soul and was rewarded by the visit of Jesus Christ, his Maker and Saviour. Perhaps a type or foreshadow of the people of God before the Second Coming.

Gordon

Hi gordonb1,
You stated an opinion by paraphrasing Daniel 10 2 to mean he ate no desirable food, when in fact he did not eat any pleasant bread. Bread means bread, like wonder bread, the type that is put into an oven, it is used to designate that type of food. If it was food in general he would have stated he ate no food for 3 weeks.
The fact of the matter is that Daniel did eat this, else how can he fast from something he did not eat. He could have fasted from anything and it would have been stated.
The man obviously did not eat unclean meat, so lets not confuse the issue by blurring it out to the point that he ate absolutely no meat meaning clean meats.
If I am wrong in summarizing what you have presented do let me know.

God Bless,
Will

I went back to the SDA Bible Commentary and discovered the following in relation to Daniel 1:8 which I will quote first followed by the quote from the SDA Bible Commentary:



The Bible Commentary includes the following comment by EGW in relation to both Daniel 1:8 and Daniel 10:3 with Daniel 10:3 being quoted first:



The following part in Daniel 10:3 is what is bothering me. Is it referring to the whole verse prior to "till three whole weeks were fulfilled", or is it only in reference to "neither did I anoint myself at all"?

I thought I would post again and say I posted what I posted before reading what gordonb1 and Will posted, therefore, my previous post was posted independent of and not knowing what they posted.

Here is a historical account:


God Bless,
Will