Here is an exerpt from the same book on chapter 10 pg 225, 226:

God Bless,
Will

Gordon,

How far are you willing to go to reason with a text that you disagree with to make it more agreeable?

Thomas

This thread has been to many places, but I did not see any real discussion on what I found most interesting. Is everybody agreed that regardless of what one puts in his mouth, it is fine if it is according to God's will, but it is sin if it is not according to God's will?

Rom 14:12 So then each one of us will give account concerning himself to God.
Rom 14:13 Then let us no longer judge one another, but rather judge this, not to put a stumbling-block or an offense toward a brother.
Rom 14:14 I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing by itself is common; except to the one deeming anything to be common, it is common.
Rom 14:15 But if your brother is grieved because of your food, you no longer walk according to love. Do not by your food destroy that one for whom Christ died.
Rom 14:16 Then do not let your good be spoken evil of.
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.
Rom 14:18 For the one serving Christ in these things is pleasing to God, and approved by men.
Rom 14:19 So then let us pursue the things of peace, and the things for building up one another.
Rom 14:20 Do not by your food undo the work of God. Truly, all things are clean, but it is bad to the man who eats through a stumbling-block.
Rom 14:21 It is good not to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything by which your brother stumbles, or is offended, or is weak.
Rom 14:22 Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Blessed is the one not condemning himself in what he approves.
Rom 14:23 But the one doubting, if he eats, he has been condemned, because it is not of faith; and whatever is not of faith is sin.

I think Paul is teaching that food is an issue between yourself and God, except in such cases where your eating disturbs the faith of another person. So in company, eat in such a way as to not cause others at the table to stumble. But when eating at home, count your meal as between yourself and God and do not invite a third person to judge your private meal.
Oh, and do not make an issue over what other people are eating. That is between them and God. For just as your meal is between you and God, their meal is between them and God. As Paul writes a few sentences previously:

Rom 14:1 And receive the one who is weak in the faith, not to judgments of your thoughts.
Rom 14:2 One indeed believes to eat all things, but being weak, another one eats vegetables.
Rom 14:3 The one eating, do not despise the one not eating. And the one not eating, do not judge the one eating, for God received him.
Rom 14:4 Who are you judging another's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. But he will stand, for God is able to make him stand.

Greetings Brethren and Sisters,

I was reading that he was about 82 years old when he fasted because of the prophecy that Jeremiah have given was coming close to its fulfillment.

• Daniel 9:3 "And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplications, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes:" KJV

Here it is interesting to note that he was fasting and not mourning.

1. Daniel was praying,
2. pleading for a favor from God,
3. which he did with fasting,
4. and sackcloth,
5. and ashes.

Please note that Daniel continued his ways even to the first year of king Cyrus. Now Daniel entered into prayer and supplications and included himself to be among the sinful. In Daniel 9 we read that as soon as God heard his supplications the command for Gabriel happened to quickly go to him. This is an example of a sanctified man, humble and diligent and God answering prayers immediately.

Then as we read further, as Gordon has shown, Daniel mourned. And he provided what type of mourning he entered into.

• Daniel 10:1-3 "In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision. In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks. I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled." KJV

Here we are, Daniel was mourning and therefore he would not annoint himself for those three weeks. He was spending his time in atonement (In one with God-ment) or if you will, covering himself with God. Let us recall in Daniel 9 he was pleading forgiveness, although he was not guilty of the sins for which he was pleading for.

The reason for Daniel's mourning was for the wisdom of God.

Interesting parallel is that we are living in the Antitypical Day of Atonement. And that our diet should be simple, striving towards heavenly patterns, just as Daniel was exampling during his mourning. And like Daniel, the people of God will also have this great love and pray for deliverance.

Conclusion: I find that Daniel did not change his character, in fact, I see that his supplications and prayers became stronger. That Daniel was growing yet closer to the Lord. And for those of us that understand the health message, perhaps we might remember that if he entered into flesh and alcohol, his character would have changed. And if that were possible, do you not think that we would have seen a record for changing his life style after dilberating and living so long a standard?

Your Sister in Christ Jesus,
Cheri

Cheri,
Daniels character is not what is being called into question, it's a distraction on your part to try and make it seem as if he was always a vegetarian, but that is not the case.
Try and be open minded to what is plainly written.
God Bless,
Will

Daniels Ways = God fearing man, and the Israelites were a God fearing people, meaning as posted earlier that He paid close attention to God's laws, including the health ones which means that he ate no unclean meat, and that he ate clean meats, or do you not believe that?
He was nearly killed because he refused to bow down to an idol, not because he forbade flesh meat from coming to his mouth.
God Bless,
Will

I see that as an outworking of the principle I was talking about. Obedience and disobedience are both a matter between the person and God. What is in your mouth is nowhere near as important as what is in your heart. If it is in your heart to obey God, you're fine; if it is in your heart to try to do something that is not God's will, whether by outright rebellion or by theological/intellectual gymnastics to make it seem OK, you're dead. Does everyone here agree?

Some people do binge eat during times of sadness as their way with dealing with the situation.

Really västergötland, You got to be kidding.

This would explain why all the men in Japan are gay! Except they seem to keep marrying and producing children…

And the Chinese so infertile!

It seems that there should then be a decrease in lesbians if this was the case.

For a more balanced view on soy read what John Robins has to say.
http://www.healthyat100.org/display.asp?catid=3&pageid=12

I would be more concerned about the hormones in beef and milk. rBGH (bovine growth hormone) is more likely a culprit than soy if there is one. BGH makes cows udders expand to grotesque proportions and is in all typical dairy (milk, butter, cheese, cream, etc.), eggs, chicken and beef, all a staple of the American diet.