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Re: To whom or what did Jesus "pay the price" for our redemption?
[Re: Darius]
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01/28/08 05:05 PM
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Why must you be mistaken?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: To whom or what did Jesus "pay the price" for our redemption?
[Re: Tom]
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01/28/08 06:16 PM
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Let's face it, Tom. Adventists discussions are more about what the church professes than about truth.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: To whom or what did Jesus "pay the price" for our redemption?
[Re: Darius]
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01/28/08 06:48 PM
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How does this insight relate to this thread, or your comments on this thread?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: To whom or what did Jesus "pay the price" for our redemption?
[Re: Tom]
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01/28/08 07:21 PM
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If we truly wanted to gain understanding we would not begin with the assumption that there is someone or something who is authorized to demand a price for the Creator's handiwork.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: To whom or what did Jesus "pay the price" for our redemption?
[Re: Darius]
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01/28/08 10:12 PM
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So you're taking issue with the topic question? I understood the topic question to be essentially equivalent to asking, "What was the purpose of Jesus' death"? However, even that question may be a bit misleading, as it may be taken to imply that Jesus' death can be separated from His life and/or resurrection.
I agree with you that there appears to be a FOTAP aspect to the question (fallacy of the assumed premise).
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: To whom or what did Jesus "pay the price" for our redemption?
[Re: Darius]
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02/04/08 02:33 AM
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Let's face it, Tom. Adventists discussions are more about what the church professes than about truth. Whose truth? What is truth, by your definition?
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Re: To whom or what did Jesus "pay the price" for our redemption?
[Re: Inga]
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02/04/08 02:48 PM
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Truth is whatever is supported by reality.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D.
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Re: To whom or what did Jesus "pay the price" for our redemption?
[Re: Inga]
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02/04/08 03:28 PM
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By God's grace,
Arnold
1 John 5:11-13
And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: To whom or what did Jesus "pay the price" for our redemption?
[Re: asygo]
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02/04/08 05:15 PM
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So asygo, the only "truth" then is the finite number of words in the bible that God spoke? And so we have to measure everything in the world, everything that goes on in our lives, up to those words? There is no other "truth"? (I don't know how many word's are listed in the bible that God directly spoke, but if you do, you can insert that number into my response, and that's ok) Is there any "truth" to the statment that you were awake when you typed that last response? Or do I have to look to the bible for that answer? So I think we should use the "truth" in this context as "what REALLY goes on in discussions about the adventist church's profession's. Let's examine what the "church" professes, and then look at what the "truth" is. I'm not sure I have any response to those questions at this time, but I think that's what the discussion was about. If I'm wrong or way off base on that one, don't hesitate to let me know. I always look forward to constructive critisims, and welcome a chance to learn more. And if I've offended anyone with any of my __________(insert your favorite word here) responses, then I apoligize. I don't mean to offend, and I know I've got a lot of spirit and gusto (or choose words of your own here). 
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Re: To whom or what did Jesus "pay the price" for our redemption?
[Re: Darius]
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02/04/08 08:02 PM
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Truth is whatever is supported by reality. Which reality? And whose reality? Surely you know that different persons may have very different realities. (If you don't, perhaps you could ask your wife. ;))
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