Suicide is defined as: the intentional taking of one's own life.
Scripture does give a clear statement that suicide is not only acceptable but is at times the greatest act:

John 15:13 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

13Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

"Laying down" one's life is an act of self-sacrifice, allowing another to take one's life. That's not the same thing as one's taking one's own life.

according to my grandfather, there were many soldiers in WW2 that did sacrifice themself by allowing themselves to die. Is this not a form of suicide? They were called "suicide missions".

anyway, God is the one and only Judge of a persons understanding, mental condition, resons of why etc... of the person whom has commited suicide.

I really feel that it is a shame that "we" play Tuesday morning "quarterback" with such a sensative and tragic issue.

This isn't suicide, as the people sacrificing their lives are not wanting to die, nor performing their heroic acts for the purpose of dying. If they had that as an ulterior motive, that could change things.



I agree. I think it's possible a person could commit suicide and be in heaven, and would be surprised if this has never happened in the history of man (i.e. that there won't be any persons in heaven who didn't commit suicide)

Here is a description of Adam's fall. It doesn't sound very rebellious to me.

Adam regretted that Eve had left his side, but now the deed was done. He must be separated from her whose society he had loved so well. How could he have it thus? His love for Eve was strong. And in utter discouragement he resolved to share her fate. He reasoned that Eve was a part of himself, and if she must die, he would die with her, for he could not bear the thought of separation from her. He lacked faith in his merciful and benevolent Creator. He did not think that God, who had formed him out of the dust of the ground into a living, beautiful form, and had created Eve to be his companion, could supply her place. After all, might not the words of this wise serpent be correct? Eve was before him, just as lovely and beautiful, and apparently as innocent, as before this act of disobedience. She expressed greater, higher love for him than before her disobedience, as the effects of the fruit she had eaten. He saw in her no signs of death. She had told him of the happy influence of the fruit, of her ardent love for him, and he decided to brave the consequences. He seized the fruit and quickly ate it, and like Eve, felt not immediately its ill effects. {SR 36.2}

Adam rebelled.

And they were both deceived.

MM, do you agree that Adam rebelled?

Paul wrote - "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (1 Tim 2:14)

And Ellen wrote - Adam was not deceived by the serpent, as was Eve, and it was inexcusable in Adam to rashly transgress God's positive command. {Con 86.1}

From the moment that Christ entered the world, the whole confederacy of Satanic agencies was set at work to deceive and overthrow Him as Adam had been deceived and overthrown. {AG 162.2}

No. He gambled. Nor do I believe Eve rebelled. She was deceived. Satan rebelled. There is no comparison.