Yes Mike I do understand your council BUT it is extremely hard to go to a Church where the administration has given NO support ( and have been very vocal in support of those that were our nemesis ) and actual it feels like a shun is in play, seriously. My Enlish/Irish/Welsh/Spanish heritage may be just too feisty for these guys!?

Come on, Dan, you are not alone in this Great Controversy. You can do it. Jesus is at your side every step of the way. There is more to church than the leaders who are out to get you. Your church family is full of beautiful people who love and support you. Focus on them. Don't be distracted by the others. Who knows, your godly actions may be just what is needed to help them. Perhaps Jesus has placed you there for such an hour as this. Don't blow it, brother. Be like Jesus and let your godliness speak for itself. Heaping coals of fire has saved many souls. Your Heins 57 heritage is just what you need to let your light shine. Man-up and glorify God. You can do it. Abide in Jesus. All things are possible in Christ. I love you, bro.

hi brother, how are you? appearing a tad frustrated i see!!

i didnt read through all the posts so i dont know exactly what you are refering to.

but as a victim of bearing false witness against your fellowman, falsely accused, evil surmising by too many on these forums-where what i said is in black and white. :0!
then having the co-dependents come along and justify the slanderer when i confront the abuser.......

i have come a little way, certainly not a long way. but i think im getting closer to God. i think im letting Him answer through me sometimes, not always. wanting to strike back is such a battle.

i can say that it does not eat at me as long as it used to. i can say i feel just the tiniest bit of love for the abuser/co-dependents involved. and i do mean tiniest bit, but it is a start.

God bless you my brother. and let me share this one shot i gave someone. "thank you for showing me just a little of what my poor Savior suffered from the caviling pharisees who followed after Him day and night!"

Wow these last 2 posts have been like ELECTRICITY in my mind as I have read them. Thank you for the support and council. Yes Jesus Christ is not only my Creator but the reason that I (we) are even alive today and have the blessed hope for the future! Thank you Thank you for the encouragement, and yes teresaq I do have a little tiny ittsy bit of love, forgiveness creaping through my heart for these leaders/accusers of the faith.

May God continue to pull us all through our paths that we must follow. Shalom

Amen, brother. I'm glad you're beginning to experience victory in and through this terrible, testing trial. God is good. Things like what you are going through are what Ellen terms - "God's workmen".

"The trials of life are God's workmen, to remove the impurities and roughness from our character. Their hewing, squaring, and chiseling, their burnishing and polishing, is a painful process; it is hard to be pressed down to the grinding wheel. But the stone is brought forth prepared to fill its place in the heavenly temple. Upon no useless material does the Master bestow such careful, thorough work. Only His precious stones are polished after the similitude of a palace. {MB 10.3}

The only way I have survived being bored in church (and yes being a very deep thinker I am frequently bored) is to remember that I am not there for anyone else but I am there to worship the Lord my God. I often find that an attitude of worship overcomes most every other thought and problem.
As for the first three issues you raise, in my experience, after having looked around for a long time to find out if there was any other church that was nearer to the truth I found there was not. I then went back and re-studied all of my beliefs, re-affirmed them and then accepted that all we can do is pray earnestly for the church we are in, and secondly to share that truth with those of the church who will listen, but to do so in a quiet and loving way.

Hold fast to Christ brother and the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth.

DebbieB,

Good post.

Please elaborate. I'm not sure what you mean. Thank you.