Forums118
Topics9,217
Posts195,975
Members1,324
|
Most Online5,850 Feb 29th, 2020
|
|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Here is a link to show exactly where the Space Station is over earth right now: Click Here
|
|
|
Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
[Re: asygo]
#104173
11/03/08 08:23 PM
11/03/08 08:23 PM
|
Active Member 2012
14500+ Member
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,795
Lawrence, Kansas
|
|
Just a few thoughts for now. Was it a re-dedication of themselves because of a failure to live up to their deity's standards? Or was it a payment to their deity to show their dedication? Or was it an offering in order to appease their deity's anger? Here's something I came across: In the classical world, animal sacrifice was a daily necessity, reminding people of a lost past in which they had once shared food with the gods, but simultaneously acting to keep up communication between the human and the divine worlds.( www.answers.com/topic/sacrifice) Something else: Propitiation, as it applies to sacrifice, has to do with drawing near to the deity - I say "deity" here because I am not speaking of any particular divine being. Arthur Vogel goes on to explain that for the ancient Semitic people especially, sacrifice had less to do with the killing of an animal than it had to do with coming together to consume it. This is somewhat like Thanksgiving dinner but with cosmic implications.( http://friendlyneighbourhoodcampusminister.blogspot.com/2008/02/meaning-of-sacrifice.html) Paul brings up the common meaning of sacrifice here: I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. (Romans 12:1)
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
|
Reply
Quote
|
|
|
Here is the link to this week's Sabbath School Lesson Study and Discussion Material: Click Here
|
|
Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
[Re: Tom]
#104193
11/04/08 06:10 PM
11/04/08 06:10 PM
|
SDA Charter Member Active Member 2019
20000+ Member
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 22,256
Southwest USA
|
|
1. Jesus’ death recommends us to God. "Jesus died as a sacrifice for man because the fallen race can do nothing to recommend themselves to God. {GC 73.1}
2. Jesus’ death makes satisfaction for sins. "Christ," {Zwingli} said, "who was once offered upon the cross, is the sacrifice and victim, that had made satisfaction for the sins of believers to all eternity."--Ibid., b. 8, ch. 5. {GC 175.1}
3. Jesus’ death appeases the wrath of God. "O Father," {Calvin} cried, "His sacrifice has appeased Thy wrath; His blood has washed away my impurities; His cross has borne my curse; His death has atoned for me. {GC 221.1}
4. Jesus’ death was substitutionary. "Day by day the repentant sinner brought his offering to the door of the tabernacle and, placing his hand upon the victim's head, confessed his sins, thus in figure transferring them from himself to the innocent sacrifice. The animal was then slain. "Without shedding of blood," says the apostle, there is no remission of sin. "The life of the flesh is in the blood." Leviticus 17:11. The broken law of God demanded the life of the transgressor. {GC 418.1}
5. Jesus’ death remits sins that are past and reconciles man to God. "As the cross of Calvary, with its infinite sacrifice for the sins of men, was revealed, they saw that nothing but the merits of Christ could suffice to atone for their transgressions; this alone could reconcile man to God. With faith and humility they accepted the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world. Through the blood of Jesus they had "remission of sins that are past." {GC 461.1}
6. Jesus must apply the benefits of His death. "The intercession of Christ in man's behalf in the sanctuary above is as essential to the plan of salvation as was His death upon the cross. By His death He began that work which after His resurrection He ascended to complete in heaven. We must by faith enter within the veil, "whither the forerunner is for us entered." Hebrews 6:20. {GC 489.1}
7. Jesus died to demonstrate the immutability of God’s law. “But it was not merely to accomplish the redemption of man that Christ came to the earth to suffer and to die. He came to "magnify the law" and to "make it honorable." Not alone that the inhabitants of this world might regard the law as it should be regarded; but it was to demonstrate to all the worlds of the universe that God's law is unchangeable. Could its claims have been set aside, then the Son of God need not have yielded up His life to atone for its transgression. The death of Christ proves it immutable. And the sacrifice to which infinite love impelled the Father and the Son, that sinners might be redeemed, demonstrates to all the universe--what nothing less than this plan of atonement could have sufficed to do--that justice and mercy are the foundation of the law and government of God. {GC 503.1} “The cross of Calvary, while it declares the law immutable, proclaims to the universe that the wages of sin is death. {GC 503.3}
8. Jesus’ death proves God will execute the death penalty. “God has given in His word decisive evidence that He will punish the transgressors of His law. Those who flatter themselves that He is too merciful to execute justice upon the sinner, have only to look to the cross of Calvary. The death of the spotless Son of God testifies that "the wages of sin is death," that every violation of God's law must receive its just retribution. Christ the sinless became sin for man. He bore the guilt of transgression, and the hiding of His Father's face, until His heart was broken and His life crushed out. All this sacrifice was made that sinners might be redeemed. In no other way could man be freed from the penalty of sin. And every soul that refuses to become a partaker of the atonement provided at such a cost must bear in his own person the guilt and punishment of transgression. {GC 539.3}
|
Reply
Quote
|
|
|
Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
[Re: Mountain Man]
#104204
11/04/08 08:58 PM
11/04/08 08:58 PM
|
Active Member 2012
14500+ Member
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,795
Lawrence, Kansas
|
|
Here's the first one: The Waldenses longed to break to these starving souls the bread of life, to open to them the messages of peace in the promises of God, and to point them to Christ as their only hope of salvation. The doctrine that good works can atone for the transgression of God's law they held to be based upon falsehood. Reliance upon human merit intercepts the view of Christ's infinite love. Jesus died as a sacrifice for man because the fallen race can do nothing to recommend themselves to God. The merits of a crucified and risen Saviour are the foundation of the Christian's faith. The dependence of the soul upon Christ is as real, and its connection with Him must be as close, as that of a limb to the body, or of a branch to the vine. This is clearly not only forensic. She says "The dependence of the soul upon Christ is as real, and its connection with Him must be as close, as that of a limb to the body, or of a branch to the vine." Where does this connection come from? Belief in the propitiation for sin enables fallen man to love God with his whole heart and his neighbor as himself. (COL 378) I'm sure one would find similar connections in the other quotes as well.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
|
Reply
Quote
|
|
|
Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
[Re: Mountain Man]
#104236
11/05/08 08:19 PM
11/05/08 08:19 PM
|
Active Member 2012
14500+ Member
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,795
Lawrence, Kansas
|
|
She says: The merits of a crucified and risen Saviour are the foundation of the Christian's faith. The dependence of the soul upon Christ is as real, and its connection with Him must be as close, as that of a limb to the body, or of a branch to the vine. This links together the cross and the dependence of the soul upon Christ. What is it about the cross that would make a soul depend upon Christ, and have a close connection? Christ exalted the character of God, attributing to him the praise, and giving to him the credit, of the whole purpose of his own mission on earth,--to set men right through the revelation of God. (ST 1/20/90) This sets out the principle that the whole purpose of Christ's mission was the revelation of God. She doesn't have to say this in every quote! We know this principle is true. So we know the cross had this purpose.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
|
Reply
Quote
|
|
|
Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
[Re: Tom]
#104237
11/05/08 08:25 PM
11/05/08 08:25 PM
|
Active Member 2012
14500+ Member
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,795
Lawrence, Kansas
|
|
You mentioned 7, not 1. My quote above was from 1. Here are some quotes related to 7, the first one a paragraph (maybe two) before yours, the second one a little earlier in the chapter. Satan's lying charges against the divine character and government appeared in their true light. He had accused God of seeking merely the exaltation of Himself in requiring submission and obedience from His creatures, and had declared that, while the Creator exacted self-denial from all others, He Himself practiced no self-denial and made no sacrifice. Now it was seen that for the salvation of a fallen and sinful race, the Ruler of the universe had made the greatest sacrifice which love could make; for "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself." 2 Corinthians 5:19 (GC 502) In the atonement the character of God is revealed. The mighty argument of the cross demonstrates to the whole universe that the course of sin which Lucifer had chosen was in no wise chargeable upon the government of God.(GC 501)
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
|
Reply
Quote
|
|
|
Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
[Re: Tom]
#104238
11/05/08 08:40 PM
11/05/08 08:40 PM
|
SDA Active Member 2023
5500+ Member
|
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,607
California, USA
|
|
She says: The merits of a crucified and risen Saviour are the foundation of the Christian's faith. The dependence of the soul upon Christ is as real, and its connection with Him must be as close, as that of a limb to the body, or of a branch to the vine. This links together the cross and the dependence of the soul upon Christ. What is it about the cross that would make a soul depend upon Christ, and have a close connection? I touched on this in my sermon a couple of weeks ago. Give me a couple of days to catch up and upload it.
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
|
Reply
Quote
|
|
|
|
|