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Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
[Re: Daryl]
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11/02/08 07:15 PM
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All the information from the Sabbath afternoon section is full of the fact that the necessity of the symbolic animal sacrifices pointed to the fact that Christ had to die for us as out substitute in order for us to receive forgiveness for our own sins. Memory Text: “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect” (1 Peter 1:18, 19, NIV).
Key Thought: To show how the Old Testament sacrificial system pointed to the sacrifice of Christ. In the Bible the sacrificial system was established in order to illustrate how God was going to solve the problem of sin. At the center of the service was the blood of the sacrificial animal. The life of the animal was poured out so that the life of the repentant sinner could be saved. The animal was a symbol of Jesus, who would give His life in place of ours.
When repentant sinners brought their sacrifices to the Lord, they were acknowledging that they were sinners who deserved death. But they also were manifesting faith, trusting that the Lord would grant them forgiveness by accepting the life of the sacrificial victim in their stead. Assuming responsibility for our sin is indispensable (this is known as repentance and confession). Only those who, in the light of the Cross, see themselves as sinners in need of forgiveness and humbly find in Christ the Lamb of God that takes away their sin, will experience cleansing.
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Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
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11/02/08 08:48 PM
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I don't think this is how those who offered the sacrifices thought. That is, I don't think they thought in terms of, "I sinned. I deserve death. I'm sacrificing this animal to die in my place." This was what God expected them to understand through the sacrifice, that is, the conclusion they should draw from the painful experience. I think they thought in terms of, "I did something which is wrong. I'm sorry I did that. I'm sacrificing this animal to demonstrate that I am dedicating myself to God, and am sorry for what I did." You don't need to take a life in order to demonstrate that you are dedicating yourself to God and that you are sorry for what you did. What is the correspondence between the two things (I mean, between being sorry and taking a life)?
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Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
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T:I don't think this is how those who offered the sacrifices thought. That is, I don't think they thought in terms of, "I sinned. I deserve death. I'm sacrificing this animal to die in my place."
R:This was what God expected them to understand through the sacrifice, that is, the conclusion they should draw from the painful experience. This seems very unlikely. This isn't the way cultures of that time viewed sacrifice. T:I think they thought in terms of, "I did something which is wrong. I'm sorry I did that. I'm sacrificing this animal to demonstrate that I am dedicating myself to God, and am sorry for what I did."
R:You don't need to take a life in order to demonstrate that you are dedicating yourself to God and that you are sorry for what you did. What is the correspondence between the two things (I mean, between being sorry and taking a life)? Animal sacrifice was the common way for people of that time to express dedication to their deity.
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Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
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T:I don't think this is how those who offered the sacrifices thought. That is, I don't think they thought in terms of, "I sinned. I deserve death. I'm sacrificing this animal to die in my place."
R:This was what God expected them to understand through the sacrifice, that is, the conclusion they should draw from the painful experience.
T: This seems very unlikely. This isn't the way cultures of that time viewed sacrifice. Pagan cultures generally viewed sacrifices as a way to appease their gods. But how did Jews view them? Here you can find several early Jewish views. Among them you can find the following one (the Juridical explanation): Juridical
The juridical approach is put forward by Ibn Ezra (commentary to Lev. 1:1) and to some extent by Nahmanides (commentary to Lev. 1:9). According to them, the sinner's life is forfeit to God, but by a gracious provision he is permitted to substitute a faultless victim. His guilt is transferred to the offering by the symbolic act of placing his hands on the victim. When observing the pouring out of the blood and the burning of the sacrifice, the person should acknowledge that, were it not for divine grace, he should be the victim, expiating his sin with his own blood and limbs (Nahmanides to Lev. 1:9). Many Christian exegetes adopted this explanation and on it built the whole theological foundation of their Church.
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Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
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11/03/08 02:33 PM
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As I am working on a possible forum software glitch, can all of you see the link to the study material between the first and the second post? I see post #104143, and post #104144, and in post #104143 the link http://ssnet.org/qrtrly/eng/08d/less06nkjv.html Are you referring to this one or to some other link?
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Re: Lesson #6 - Atonement in SYMBOLS: Part 1
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T:I don't think this is how those who offered the sacrifices thought. That is, I don't think they thought in terms of, "I sinned. I deserve death. I'm sacrificing this animal to die in my place."
R:This was what God expected them to understand through the sacrifice, that is, the conclusion they should draw from the painful experience. This seems very unlikely. This isn't the way cultures of that time viewed sacrifice. T:I think they thought in terms of, "I did something which is wrong. I'm sorry I did that. I'm sacrificing this animal to demonstrate that I am dedicating myself to God, and am sorry for what I did." Animal sacrifice was the common way for people of that time to express dedication to their deity. Was it a re-dedication of themselves because of a failure to live up to their deity's standards? Or was it a payment to their deity to show their dedication? Or was it an offering in order to appease their deity's anger?
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There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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