Rosangela, is that the only time you consider a cultivated sinful trait of character crucified - when you can no longer be tempted with things pertaining to it?

Also, do you think each temptation related to a particular trait of character must be overcome one at a time? For example, the moment you got the victory over indulging soap operas did you also get the victory over enjoying gossip?

One would have to be aware of a particular sin before being able to overcome it, right? Also, isn't "sin" a better word to use than the phrase "trait of character"? That's what we're talking about, isn't it, unknown sins?

Having a vague sense it is wrong is akin to the "still small voice". Do you think people can resist the "still small voice" with impunity?


John and Paul, after they experienced rebirth and conversion, are good examples. Which cultivated sinful traits of character do you think they retained and indulged ignorantly after they completed the process of conversion?

The "still small voice" is akin to the Holy Spirit. Having a vague sense is akin to not being fully persuaded of something.



If this means resisting the Holy Spirit, no.



Does this mean "Yes, this is what I'm saying"?

I think Peter is also a good example, and he retained and indulged ignorantly prejudice.

When I no longer love that sin.


I'm not sure I understood you. Soap operas and gossip are not related. They are two distinct sins which may or may not occur together. In my case they didn't.

Where in the Bible or the SOP does it say Peter sinned ignorantly against the Gentiles? The following passages make it clear Peter was not ignorantly prejudiced:

This vision conveyed to Peter both reproof and instruction. It revealed to him the purpose of God--that by the death of Christ the Gentiles should be made fellow heirs with the Jews to the blessings of salvation. As yet none of the disciples had preached the gospel to the Gentiles. In their minds the middle wall of partition, broken down by the death of Christ, still existed, and their labors had been confined to the Jews, for they had looked upon the Gentiles as excluded from the blessings of the gospel. Now the Lord was seeking to teach Peter the world-wide extent of the divine plan. {AA 135.3}

Peter related the plain interpretation of these words, which was given him almost immediately in his summons to go to the centurion and instruct him in the faith of Christ. This message showed that God was no respecter of persons, but accepted and acknowledged all who feared Him. Peter told of his astonishment when, in speaking the words of truth to those assembled at the home of Cornelius, he witnessed the Holy Spirit taking possession of his hearers, Gentiles as well as Jews. The same light and glory that was reflected upon the circumcised Jews shone also upon the faces of the uncircumcised Gentiles. This was God's warning that Peter was not to regard one as inferior to the other, for the blood of Christ could cleanse from all uncleanness. {AA 193.1}

When Peter, at a later date, visited Antioch, he won the confidence of many by his prudent conduct toward the Gentile converts. For a time he acted in accordance with the light given from heaven. He so far overcame his natural prejudice as to sit at table with the Gentile converts. But when certain Jews who were zealous for the ceremonial law, came from Jerusalem, Peter injudiciously changed his deportment toward the converts from paganism. A number of the Jews "dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation." This revelation of weakness on the part of those who had been respected and loved as leaders, left a most painful impression on the minds of the Gentile believers. The church was threatened with division. But Paul, who saw the subverting influence of the wrong done to the church through the double part acted by Peter, openly rebuked him for thus disguising his true sentiments. In the presence of the church, Paul inquired of Peter, "If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?" Galatians 2:13, 14. {AA 197.3}

Can a person be tempted when they no longer love a certain sin?


Are there categories of sins which when one in the group is hated all the others are hated too? And when hated does it mean it can no longer tempt or annoy?

PS - Rosangela, how do you explain the fact Jesus was tempted in all points? He didn't love sin, therefore, according to what you've written, He could not be tempted, right?

In the very quotes you posted:

"This vision conveyed to Peter both reproof and instruction. It revealed to him the purpose of God--that by the death of Christ the Gentiles should be made fellow heirs with the Jews to the blessings of salvation. As yet none of the disciples had preached the gospel to the Gentiles. In their minds the middle wall of partition, broken down by the death of Christ, still existed, and their labors had been confined to the Jews, for they had looked upon the Gentiles as excluded from the blessings of the gospel. Now the Lord was seeking to teach Peter the world-wide extent of the divine plan. {AA 135.3}

Peter related the plain interpretation of these words, which was given him almost immediately in his summons to go to the centurion and instruct him in the faith of Christ. This message showed that God was no respecter of persons, but accepted and acknowledged all who feared Him. ... {AA 193.1}

When Peter, at a later date, visited Antioch, he won the confidence of many by his prudent conduct toward the Gentile converts. For a time he acted in accordance with the light given from heaven. He so far overcame his natural prejudice as to sit at table with the Gentile converts. ...{AA 197.3}

Obviously the vision showed, revealed and taught things Peter didn't know, or wasn't aware of.