In the annals of human history, the growth of nations, the rise and fall of empires, appear as if dependent on the will and prowess of man; the shaping of events seems, to a great degree, to be determined by his power, ambition, or caprice. But in the word of God the curtain is drawn aside, and we behold, above, behind, and through all the play and counterplay of human interest and power and passions, the agencies of the All-merciful One, silently, patiently working out the counsels of His own will. {PK 499.4} [Prophets and Kings (1917)]

Green, I didn't notice your last reply. I don't question Ellen White's gifts and that God has used her greatly. I think I always was consistent in saying this. I understand that there's errors in the Bible, but there's just a few and it doesn't taint the message in whole that God has given to mankind. Yes people can narrow on these little errors, however, this is not what I'm saying here and I'm not focussing on little errors either. It seem you can't see or can't hear what I'm trying to say, and always pull the focuss on that I'm rejecting Ellen White. I'm not.

My concern is that the White Estate and our leaders has been hidding the truth for over 100 years about Ellen white, her writings, history, 1888, and so forth and so on. That's is very serious and via Sabbath School and books and etc... teach us what they want us to know. That's all fine if they are with the Holy Spirit, but if for over a century the same sinful unrepentant rebellious spirit is guiding us, then we are not in safe hands. What happen in 1888 is quite vital for us because it was the mark of a turn in our history. There where doctrinal debates going on and Ellen white and others took some firm stand on what ground to take. The 1888 truth is comming out and we need to take the time to study these. What if Ellen white was warning us about these and they hid these warnings from us. What if they pick and choose what EGW writtings is publish and edit some part of it. What if this is all true that our leaders has been lying to us for a long time. Would you view that as a small error? Would you responce to me differently right now?

If we do not question and see if this is true and test all things with the Bible, then we will fall with the deception. I understand that it's putting us on shaky ground because by questioning the Church we are not solidly standing on what the Church has been teaching us. So we need to reposition our feet on the Bible. Some people might not choose so and just join the world. The world or on false doctrines is the same. There's only one safe ground to stand and it is on the Bible. So we need to ground ourself and test all things with the Bible.