You're quoting her words, but giving them a meaning she never intended,

That is easy -- I took the time to read the text below and then answer those questions "from the text" not my own preference.


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Responding by saying that you are repeating what the texts say is insufficient.

http://egwdatabase.whiteestate.org/nxt/g...hapter01998.htm


"Every battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this shall be with burning and fuel of fire." "The indignation of the Lord is upon all nations, and His fury upon all their armies: He hath utterly destroyed them, He hath delivered them to the slaughter." "Upon the wicked He shall rain quick burning coals, fire and brimstone and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup." Isaiah 9:5; 34:2; Psalm 11:6, margin.


Fire comes down from God out of heaven. The earth is broken up. The weapons concealed in its depths are drawn forth. Devouring flames burst from every yawning chasm. The very rocks are on fire. The day has come that shall burn as an oven. The elements melt with fervent heat, the earth also, and the works that are therein are burned up. Malachi 4:1; 2 Peter 3:10. The earth's surface seems one molten mass--a vast, seething 673

lake of fire. It is the time of the judgement and perdition of ungodly men--"the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompenses for the controversy of Zion." Isaiah 34:8. {GC 672.2}
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The wicked receive their recompense in the earth. Proverbs 11:31.

They "shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts." Malachi 4:1.

Some are destroyed as in a moment, while others suffer many days. All are punished “according to their deeds." The sins of the righteous having been transferred to Satan, he is made to suffer not only for his own rebellion, but for all the sins which he has caused God's people to commit.

His punishment is to be far greater than that of those whom he has deceived. After all have perished who fell by his deceptions, he is still to live and suffer on. In the cleansing flames the wicked are at last destroyed, root and branch--Satan the root, his followers the branches. The full penalty of the law has been visited; the demands of justice have been met; and heaven and earth, beholding, declare the righteousness of Jehovah. {GC 673.1}




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http://egwdatabase.whiteestate.org/nxt/g...hapter01984.htm


In the typical service the high priest, having made the atonement for Israel, came forth and blessed the congregation. So Christ, at the close of His work as mediator, will appear, "without sin unto salvation" (Hebrews 9:28), to bless His waiting people with eternal life. As the priest, in removing the sins from the sanctuary, confessed them upon the head of the scapegoat, so Christ will place all these sins upon Satan, the originator and instigator of sin. The scapegoat, bearing the sins of Israel, was sent away "unto a land not inhabited" (Leviticus 16:22); so Satan, bearing the guilt of all the sins which he has caused God's people to commit, will be for a thousand years confined to the earth, which will then be desolate, without inhabitant, and he will at last suffer the
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full penalty of sin in the fires that shall destroy all the wicked. [/b]; Thus the great plan of redemption will reach its accomplishment in the final eradication of sin and the deliverance of all who have been willing to renounce evil. {GC 485.3}

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Questions for the reader.

1. What does the phrase “His fury upon all their armies” refer too in the text above”?
2. What does the phrase “Suffer the full penalty of sin in the fires” refer to – in the text above?
3. Is it the same as the phrase above “The full penalty of the LAW has been visited ”??
4. When the text speaks of those who “suffer for many days” does this mean all or just some?
5. When the text says that by comparison “he is still to live and suffer on” after all others have perished… is that fair?
6. In the text the argument is made that in this way “the demands of justice have been met” is that really true as you see it?
7. In the text above when it is said that ”punishment is far greater” for Satan than for others suffering there – are ALL punished??

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If you could have made your case "in the text" then these questions were perfectly tailored for you to do so.

Apparently it is not possible.

Which was my point.

The other statements I've presented explain this, Bob.

In addition to asking, "What does the text say?" is asking "What did the author mean?"

If you could have made your case "in the text" then these questions were perfectly tailored for you to do so.

Apparently it is not possible.

Which was my point.

T:What would cause you to view God in such a manner, as being capable of doing the things you are suggesting?

B:That is easy -- I took the time to read the text below and then answer those questions "from the text" not my own preference.

T:Responding by saying that you are repeating what the texts say is insufficient.

B:"Insufficient" is not addressing the answer to the questions at all and avoiding the text altogether where it is disconfirming to your model. Surely you can see that.

1. What does the phrase “His fury upon all their armies” refer too in the text above”?

2. What does the phrase “Suffer the full penalty of sin in the fires” refer to – in the text above?

3. Is it the same as the phrase above “The full penalty of the LAW has been visited ”??

4. When the text speaks of those who “suffer for many days” does this mean all or just some?

5. When the text says that by comparison “he is still to live and suffer on” after all others have perished… is that fair?

6. In the text the argument is made that in this way “the demands of justice have been met” is that really true as you see it?

7. In the text above when it is said that ”punishment is far greater” for Satan than for others suffering there – are ALL punished?

Any denomination may be created by ignoring the text and simply hand waiving of the form "This is what John meant to write here in this part of the Bible -- instead of what you actually see written there".

hopefully we can all agree on that point.

To be accurate with the text - you have to be willing to address the details found in it even though you may not be pleased by those details.

Hint -- you have no quote at all from Ellen White or the Bible saying that at the 2nd coming of Christ it is really Satan that is coming or it is really Satan that is ording Christ's death angel to kill all that do not have the seal of God -- or that it is Satan's final plague that is described or that it is Satan's brightness that kills -- and would have killed even Moses according to God.

The disconfirming details on this point are mounting when it comes to the view you are holding to -

http://spiritlessons.com/documents/7_jovenes/English_7_Jovenes_Hell.htm

would this be a good picture of how you see it going down, brother bob?