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Re: Where did Moses explain why Jesus had to die or that the animal sacrifices symbolized His death?
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Reposting: The Lord instructed Moses definitely in regard to the ceremonial sacrifices, which were to cease at the death of Christ. The system of sacrifices foreshadowed the offering of Christ as a Lamb without blemish.(1SP 266) Of course, we can get from Scripture itself that Moses was instructed by the Lord. Presumably the Lord explained the meaning of the sacrifices to Moses as He was instructing Him. It would be awfully odd if he didn't.
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Re: Where did Moses explain why Jesus had to die or that the animal sacrifices symbolized His death?
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I agree with you that there are numerous details about what Moses taught which are given through Mrs. White and which are not in the Bible. However, I will disagree with you that these things were handed down as oral tradition. Good point. God showed Ellen White things that most likely were not part of the oral tradition.
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Re: Where did Moses explain why Jesus had to die or that the animal sacrifices symbolized His death?
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I find it unlikely that Moses or anyone else knew that Jesus had to die, let alone being able to explain why. The picture of the suffering servant doesn't come until (Isaiah?) and not one in Israel who saw Jesus walk that path towards the cross thought about sacraficial lambs, with the exception of Jesus himself. I agree with you, Thomas, that Moses did not clearly record it. However, I also agree with Ellen White that Moses knew it and communicated it to the Jews. Years later, though, the Jews seem to have forgotten it and believed the Messiah would live forever and restore Israel to national greatness.
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Re: Where did Moses explain why Jesus had to die or that the animal sacrifices symbolized His death?
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PS - I'm glad I'm not the only one on this forum who thinks Moses did not clearly explain why Jesus had to die or that the animal sacrifices symbolized His death. The idea that the Jews could read what Moses wrote and understand it just fine seems to fall apart in light of what Thomas (Vastergotland) has written here.
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Re: Where did Moses explain why Jesus had to die or that the animal sacrifices symbolized His death?
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Welcome back, MM. Did you notice that Thomas is saying something totally different than you are?
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Re: Where did Moses explain why Jesus had to die or that the animal sacrifices symbolized His death?
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Thanx, Tom. Won't have much time this summer to participate. Yes, I did see where Thomas and I see things differently. I mentioned it to him above. But I agree with him that neither of the two points of the question of this thread is clear in the Pentateuch.
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Re: Where did Moses explain why Jesus had to die or that the animal sacrifices symbolized His death?
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But your "agreement" is based on a completely different reason. Thomas doesn't think Moses, or anyone else, understood. You think he knew, but, for some mysterious reason, chose not to write it down, writing down less important stuff instead, but only orally communicated it. Although I disagree with what Thomas said, at least it makes logical sense. I don't see the logical sense in Moses' explaining more important things orally while writing down less important things. I'm assuming you'll agree with me that the meaning of Christ's death would be of the highest rank in terms of importance.
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Re: Where did Moses explain why Jesus had to die or that the animal sacrifices symbolized His death?
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Moses never clearly explained either of the two points. The two serpent stories he wrote about are cryptic - not clear. Surely you can agree with me that Moses never stated the matters in plain language?
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Re: Where did Moses explain why Jesus had to die or that the animal sacrifices symbolized His death?
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No, I disagree, and furthermore, as I stated above, I don't think your idea makes sense. Why would Moses only write down less important things?
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Re: Where did Moses explain why Jesus had to die or that the animal sacrifices symbolized His death?
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John 5:46-47 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words? Just came across that and thought it was of interest.
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