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Re: Lesson #7 - Grace
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05/12/09 02:39 AM
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I think agape would be the opposite of sin. Ditto. Same for Colin's. Sin is the opposite of love. Disobedience and obedience are merely the outward manifestations of what's going on inside.
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1 John 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Lesson #7 - Grace
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Love can never stand alone -- It must be guided by RIGHTEOUSNESS.
In our lesson last week a member pointed out a thought provoking point about love. Man's first sin was committed on the rational of love. Adam sinned out of love. He knew it was wrong to take that fruit, he knew it was going against God's express command, but he loved Eve so much he couldn't bear the thought of being separated from her -- so he ate.
Love can be deceptive -- why? Jer. 17:9 The heart is deceitful.... It MUST be based upon righteousness. not to take away from the legitimate points you are making: Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 1Jn 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. from my study the bible-and sop- is quite clear on what this love looks like. Adam's love was a lack of trust and reliance upon God. i dont think this is accurate if you think about it. adam wasnt wrong in loving eve and not wanting to lose her, he was wrong in not trusting God to work out the situation, otherwise the statement makes adam look wrong for loving. but, yes, we need to study the bible, old and new, to understand, or get a glimpse of what Gods love is like and practice that with our fellowman.
Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?
Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.
Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
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Re: Lesson #7 - Grace
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these also are important. then we have 1 corinthians 13.....and so many more. righteousness is Godlike love towards God and our fellowman. Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. Joh 13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. not meaning to get into overkill.
Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?
Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.
Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
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Re: Lesson #7 - Grace
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i agree, thomas.
righteousness =right doing right doing=obeying the law the law =a transcript of Gods character Gods character =love love=righteousness = obeying the law as summarized in deuteronomy and again by Jesus
adam did not love God supremely, that was His, and our, mistake. when we study God, His humility and love towards us, then we can also learn to love rightly.
some people may claim all we have to do is love without understanding that means self-sacrificing.
Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?
Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.
Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
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