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Re: Sabbath Keeping Bees in Brazil?
[Re: Daryl]
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06/05/09 06:09 PM
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As one post was edited and other posts were removed as they focused on members rather than on the topic, this thread has been reopened for discussion pertaining to the topic.
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Re: Sabbath Keeping Bees in Brazil?
[Re: Tom]
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06/05/09 11:40 PM
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Objective data would make this more credible, and useful. I can make my computer turn off and rest for 24 hours every 7 days, +/- 1 second randomly. It will take a bit of observation to be able to tell what was going on.
By God's grace, Arnold
1 John 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Sabbath Keeping Bees in Brazil?
[Re: asygo]
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06/06/09 12:53 AM
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welcome back. missed you!
Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?
Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.
Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
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Re: Sabbath Keeping Bees in Brazil?
[Re: teresaq]
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06/06/09 03:45 PM
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Yes, welcome back, Arnold! Has the moving process finished?
As to the bee's rest, Dr. Lee says that he searched and found that naturalists had already observed this and written about a weekly cycle followed by these bees. However, I couldn't find anything about this in the Internet.
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Re: Sabbath Keeping Bees in Brazil?
[Re: Rosangela]
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06/08/09 10:37 PM
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Moving is done. Settling in is far from done. I'm limited to drive-by postings for a while.
By God's grace, Arnold
1 John 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Sabbath Keeping Bees in Brazil?
[Re: asygo]
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06/19/09 04:29 PM
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I had searched on the Internet, too, and couldn't find much except a few Adventists talking about it. I have to admit that a peer reviewed journal is probably not going to support such research, so it may be hard to get concrete evidence.
I think Tom had the right idea and would like to add one more thing to his list of items to investigate. And that is, do the bees really rest any day? There are far too many things made up and claimed that such and such said them, it's best to find out, did they really say them, is it true, was it understood correctly?
Some other things to think about: Studies have shown that humans perform better resting one day in seven. Is it reasonable for animals to rest one in seven? Would it make sense, what purpose would it serve? God could make it that way, but would it make sense? What would it serve? The Sabbath was made for man. The Bible does say to let the animals rest. But, was that to let them rest from doing their work (or purpose in life / reason for existing) or from doing human's work? Was that for the benefit of the animal or for the humans as a symbol of the Sabbath? Or a mixture of the two?
If the claim of the bees is true, why not all bees, why not all animals? If only some animals, or a rare select few, what would that mean? What if it was determined they rested on Sunday, or on a 10 day cycle? Or if the bees are on Sabbath, but another animal is on Wednesdays? I think there are some serious ramifications for some of these inconsistencies.
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Re: Sabbath Keeping Bees in Brazil?
[Re: kland]
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06/20/09 02:49 AM
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Rosangela, Did Dr.Lee provide the names of the naturalists who have observed the bee's rest habits?
A mental note to myself.. I forgot the scientific name used when one is a beekeeper but that could be a starting place to research this. God Bless, Will
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Re: Sabbath Keeping Bees in Brazil?
[Re: Will]
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06/20/09 04:41 AM
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Would apiarists be the word you are looking for?
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Re: Sabbath Keeping Bees in Brazil?
[Re: Will]
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06/20/09 10:07 AM
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Did Dr.Lee provide the names of the naturalists who have observed the bee's rest habits? No, Will, he just says in the video that naturalists aren't concerned about the Sabbath - as the day of the week - but that they had already observed that those bees follow a weekly cycle. However, he provides no reference.
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Re: Sabbath Keeping Bees in Brazil?
[Re: crater]
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06/20/09 10:10 AM
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Would apiarists be the word you are looking for? Or apiculturists. Both are correct.
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