Not fickle bees, but rather very smart and obedient bees.

Some keep Sabbath, and some keep Sunday. Seems fickle to me. The Sunday-keeping ones probably were misled by spurious arguments.

Are you guys making fun of something very holy? This is an amazing phenomena that God perserve for our growing benefit.

May I suggest that we ask the obvious questions,
1. how can these bees know about Sabbath?
2. How do they know, that it is a day of rest?

These sorts of arguments have been going on for millennia. The Catholics used all sorts of arguments like these to "prove" that Sunday should be kept. Rosangela already alluded to this. There's scores of these "legends," as Rosangela referred to it (a nice choice of words).

In order to show that bees were really keeping the Sabbath, a test would need to be done to show that their behavior was not random. If we postulate that bees will "take off" approximately one day in seven, how many weeks of observation would it take to establish that they are actually "keeping" the Sabbath, and not sometimes the Sabbath or some other day? This is a statistics question that I'm not inclined to try to solve, but I'm sure it would take a minimum of several months. One would need to observe the bees faithfully for the whole day, to make sure they weren't "cheating" and verify that they actually did "work" every non-Sabbath day, and only "rested" on Sabbaths.

Tom, you missed the point again. These bees has been keeping the sabbath regularly for ages.

What Rosangela referred to as the catholic was saying about keeping Sunday was the BIRDS. Birds are more difficult to eye witness and draw this conclusion and requires a high tech study to establish that. Of course, that you can espect that the Catholic would decoy the actual truth of the Birds to use validate their Sunday. But they can't do this for these bees.

With the bees, it doesn't require high-tech and the jungle bee-keeper with no education whatsoever can come to that conclusion even without knowledge of the Sabbath being Sathurday. But they know they keep Sathurday because no bees are going out of the hives to work.

The bees keeping the Sabbath is "TRUTH". They've been keeping the Sabbath regularly, every Sabbath for centuries as far as the beekeepers knowledge.

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Elle, if the bees were keeping the Sabbath, this should able to substantiate by some other witness than Seventh-day Adventists. You can see why this would be desirable, can't you? Is there any such testimony available?

An interesting thing to consider is the character of this sort of evidence. This is appealing to miracles, as opposed to a "Thus saith the Lord," and this is exactly the sort of thing that was used to establish Sunday-keeping as being from God almost 2,000 years ago.

Tom you make a valid point about a variety of witnesses to the bees behavior.
I dare to say that it would make this much more credible if for example people who are not Christians and\or have no religious affiliation at all could attest to it on multiple occasions.
Am I understanding what you wrote correctly Tom?
God Bless,
Will

I think so. I'll quickly add, though, that I'm not suggesting by any means that anyone is lying. I think stories like this easily get misunderstood.

Something I would want to know, for example, if I were interested in if this were really true or not, would be the types of things I wrote about earlier.

1.Do the bees "work" every other day except Sabbath?
2.Do they "rest" every Sabbath?
3.Do they always "rest" on Sabbath?
4.Is it possible that their behavior could be triggered by something a human being is doing? (especially that would have to do with things being done or not being done on Sabbath)
5.Do they "keep" Sabbath from sunset to sunset?
6.What constitutes "keeping" Sabbath and what constitutes "work"? Are they strict in these "rest" and "work" activities?

Temporarily closing this topic until some sorting out has been done.