Ok, I gathered all the main text that I know of that shed light on the incarnation of Christ. If there are some more, I would really appreciate if you post them here. I would like gather them together.

1. Luk 1:35 The angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God."
(Holy child means having the presence of God. John the baptist was also filled with the Holy Spirit from the womb. So now, I lean that it is the same for Christ, because scriptures says at many places that Jesus was filled with the Spirit of His Father.)

2. 1Cor 15:45 So also it is written, “The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." Through Christ we have life. So this text could be referring to what Jesus said about Himself being the life and the ressurection.

3. Rom 8:3 "For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh" Likeness can be taken in two ways. Now I'm leanient to believe it meant that Jesus was 100% man, including his brain. Previously, I didn't think Jesus was physically/genetically the same as us.

4. Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: I checked the word "no reputation" G2758, which means to empty, make empty, or to laid aside equality with or the form of God.

At the begining I only had the first 3 texts which I quoted in a few of my post. The 4th text is a new one for me. So it's shedding new light and I've abandonned what I thought a few weeks ago. This is how I view it now and would like to hear your comments.

So Phil 2:7 seems to say that Jesus put aside the form of God, or made himself empty of the form of God when incarnated. So that would harmonize with the fact that He didn't have immortality when he was on earth, and could die the death of any man.

Also, having not the omniscience then, he could be tempted just like any man.

Also when Jesus said "I can of mine own self do nothing" Jn 5, He probably meant what He said. He didn't have any Omnipotence and all the other attributes.

Having not the divine attributes, does not mean it made him less "the son of God". He was 100% the son of God, but was stripped of his form of God including all the powers that comes with it, so he can be a servant in the likeness of a Man.

But being the Son of God, His authority always remain, because He is what He is regardless of His stipping of power on earth. He came on earth to show the Father and to die.

The SOP tells us that an angel made the men fall.

I had always thought it was Christ revealing a portion of His divinity within that caused them to fall, however, I also remember it being an angel coming between Christ and those men, but then the timing of the angel doing this is interesting.

Of course Jesus didn't come in the form of God, otherwise all those whom He met would have been annihilated. Now, saying He didn't possess the attributes of God is entirely another thing. If He had divested Himself of the attributes of God He would have ceased to be God - this is obvious. What makes God, God is His attributes. I noticed you didn't explain the texts I cited. Could someone who was not God forgive sins? Of course not - even the Jews accused Jesus of blasphemy because of that. Could someone who doesn't have life in himself say, "I am the life"? Christ's greatest temptation was to use His attributes for His own benefit. How do you explain the first temptation if Christ didn't have the power to change stones into bread?

Paul wrote:

1 Timothy
3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Ellen White observed:

The study of the incarnation of Christ, His atoning sacrifice and mediatorial work, will employ the mind of the diligent student as long as time shall last; and looking to heaven with its unnumbered years he will exclaim, "Great is the mystery of godliness." {COL 133.4}

"God had a knowledge of the events of the future, even before the creation of the world. He did not make His purposes to fit circumstances, but He allowed matters to develop and work out. He did not work to bring about a certain condition of things, but He knew that such a condition would exist. The plan that should be carried out upon the defection of any of the high intelligences of heaven--this is the secret, the mystery which has been hid from ages. And an offering was prepared in the eternal purposes to do the very work which God has done for fallen humanity. {6BC 1082.3}

The incarnation of Christ is a mystery. The union of divinity with humanity is a mystery indeed, hidden with God, "even the mystery which hath been hid from ages." It was kept in eternal silence by Jehovah, and was first revealed in Eden, by the prophecy that the Seed of the woman should bruise the serpent's head, and that he should bruise His heel. {6BC 1082.4}

To present to the world this mystery that God kept in silence for eternal ages before the world was created, before man was created, was the part that Christ was to act in the work He entered upon when He came to this earth. And this wonderful mystery, the incarnation of Christ and the atonement that He made, must be declared to every son and daughter of Adam. {6BC 1082.5}

The incarnation of Christ is the mystery of all mysteries. {6BC 1082.6}

dealing with just this verse above for the moment. we need the preceding verses to get the point paul is trying to make. the point is humility, and paul would have us humble ourselves as well by studying how Jesus lowered Himself farther and farther.




you seemed to have gone a step further than what the definition gave.
G2758 kenoō
From G2756; to make empty, that is, (figuratively) to abase, neutralize, falsify: - make (of none effect, of no reputation, void), be in vain.

Jesus abased Himself for our sakes.

i stand corrected, almost. ill have to check but i believe my memory is still valid for driving out the temple crowd, tho.

Locking the topic until one of us gets around to fixing it up.

OK.

It seems this topic got locked and forgotten, therefore, I thank Elle for bringing this to my attention.

I have skimmed through the thread and noticed the topic within a topic, however, seeing a lot of time has gone by since the thread was closed, I am going to open the thread as is and then see if we can figure out what needs to be moved into another topic and under what new topic name.

I am hoping asygo and Elle will work with me via group PM in getting this separated into two topics.