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Re: Christ Desired and Lusted to Sin? (2)
[Re: Mountain Man]
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I think I had already read this passage in the past, but didn't remember it:
"But Christ did not forget John. In the lonely prison he manifested himself to him, showing him that erelong he himself was to suffer a most shameful, ignominious death. Not only that, but he was to bear the penalty of the transgression of the law of God, not to give men liberty to continue in sin, but to take away their inclination to sin, that they might not desire to transgress. Those who receive Christ are obedient to his commands; for his mind is given to them. He imbues them with his spirit of obedience, and they return to their loyalty." {YI, April 6, 1899 par. 3}
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Re: Christ Desired and Lusted to Sin? (2)
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07/03/09 11:09 PM
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This is clearly dealing with the mind. Indeed, it says: Those who receive Christ are obedient to his commands; for his mind is given to them.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Christ Desired and Lusted to Sin? (2)
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but to take away their inclination to sin, that they might not desire to transgress. That's a good one to remember. So Christ can take away our inclination to sin, and we can lose the desire to transgress. No inclination to sin, no desire to transgress. Sounds similar to what the SOP said about Christ's nature recoiling from evil. Yet, some people say that Jesus had an inclination to sin, and a desire to transgress.
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By God's grace, Arnold
1 John 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Christ Desired and Lusted to Sin? (2)
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This is clearly dealing with the mind. Indeed, it says: Those who receive Christ are obedient to his commands; for his mind is given to them. And it should, since both obedience and disobedience happen in the mind, not the armpit or legs or hair or any other part of our physical nature.
By God's grace, Arnold
1 John 5:11-13 And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Christ Desired and Lusted to Sin? (2)
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Christ ... was to bear the penalty of the transgression of the law of God, not to give men liberty to continue in sin, but to take away their inclination to sin, that they might not desire to transgress. Those who receive Christ are obedient to his commands; for his mind is given to them. He imbues them with his spirit of obedience, and they return to their loyalty." {YI, April 6, 1899 par. 3} Just love those words, what a blessing, the hope of having all desire and inclination toward sin taken away. That would truly be freedom indeed.
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Re: Christ Desired and Lusted to Sin? (2)
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Christ did not have a carnal nature. As the second Adam, temptation to sin would have been outside Him, not inside Him. It would have come to Him the same way it came to Eve, perhaps -- as an effort to persuade Him from outside, but not as a "pull" from His own desires inside. He desired nothing but the will of God the Father, complete compassion upon the afflicted, sick, possessed and suffering, as well as on all sinners. He went about doing good and healing ALL who were oppressed by the devil in ANY form whether through sin controlling them or affliction or sickness. He is pure love, and nothing but love, and no abusiveness in His love, not one harsh or ugly thing at all. Ellen White says even His stern rebukes to the Pharisees, He spoke with tears in His voice as one who would want to see them wake up to the truth and to their desperate need of God's holiness, which is pure love.
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