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Re: The Wrath of God,The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man [Re: Mountain Man] #116772
07/28/09 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
What kind of wrath is demonstrated in the following passage:

Exodus
15:35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
15:36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.
were getting back to going to whatever will prove ones point whether it fits with the topic or not. in other words its more about proving ones viewpoint than it is about searching the scriptures/sop.

i just happened to come across the last quote i posted. it isnt meant to prove any point, but to get us to think and pray and restudy, to become an empty vessel that God can fill.
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If through the grace of Christ His people will become new bottles, He will fill them with new wine. {DA 279.1}
you can read the context if you wish. smile

i respect that for you it does fit with the topic, but the topic is what has God Himself done, what has satan himself done, what do we do.


Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?

Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.

Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
Re: The Wrath of God,The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man [Re: teresaq] #116815
07/29/09 01:34 PM
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Teresaq, the title of this thread is - The Wrath of God, The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man. This title assumes there are three types of wrath. The following question . . .

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What kind of wrath is demonstrated in the following passage:

Exodus
15:35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
15:36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.

. . . is asking, Which of the three kinds of wrath named in the title of this thread is demonstrated in Exodus 15:35-36? You wrote, "The topic is what has God Himself done, what has satan himself done, what do we do." The passage quoted above describes something that was done. My question is - Who did what and why?

Originally Posted By: teresaq
were getting back to going to whatever will prove ones point whether it fits with the topic or not. in other words its more about proving ones viewpoint than it is about searching the scriptures/sop.

This is an unkind and unwarranted condemnation. Who made you judge? Please keep such caustic comments to yourself. Stick to the topic. Thank you.

Re: The Wrath of God,The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man [Re: Mountain Man] #116826
07/29/09 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Teresaq, the title of this thread is - The Wrath of God, The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man. This title assumes there are three types of wrath. The following question . . .

Quote:
What kind of wrath is demonstrated in the following passage:

Exodus
15:35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
15:36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.

. . . is asking, Which of the three kinds of wrath named in the title of this thread is demonstrated in Exodus 15:35-36? You wrote, "The topic is what has God Himself done, what has satan himself done, what do we do." The passage quoted above describes something that was done. My question is - Who did what and why?

Originally Posted By: teresaq
were getting back to going to whatever will prove ones point whether it fits with the topic or not. in other words its more about proving ones viewpoint than it is about searching the scriptures/sop.

This is an unkind and unwarranted condemnation. Who made you judge? Please keep such caustic comments to yourself. Stick to the topic. Thank you.
i also wrote this.

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i respect that for you it does fit with the topic, but the topic is what has God Himself done, what has satan himself done, what do we do.
but im not sure why you are correcting me since im the one who started the topic and know what i intended. confused

what did God Himself do?

what did satan himself do?

what does man himself do?

if you would like to start a companion topic on your point please feel free.


Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?

Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.

Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
Re: The Wrath of God,The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man [Re: teresaq] #116843
07/30/09 12:15 AM
07/30/09 12:15 AM
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Quote:
Exodus
15:35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
15:36 And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.

1. What did God Himself do? He commanded Moses and the COI to stone the blasphemer to death.

2. What did Satan himself do? Tempted the man to blaspheme.

3. What does man himself do? A) Blasphemed God, and B) obeyed God's command to stone the blasphemer to death.

Re: The Wrath of God,The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man [Re: Mountain Man] #116844
07/30/09 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted By: teresaq
but im not sure why you are correcting me since im the one who started the topic and know what i intended.

You imported something I wrote and then asked me the following question - "So the key to how you see this is the "wrath of God", what that looks like", so technically speaking my answer is what you're requesting. I was talking about two different things that will happen after probation closes - 1) Holy angels will pour out the plagues, and 2) Evil men will turn upon one another in fits of rage.

In the mad strife of their own fierce passions, and by the awful outpouring of God's unmingled wrath, fall the wicked inhabitants of the earth--priests, rulers, and people, rich and poor, high and low. "And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried." Jeremiah 25:33. {GC 656.3}

Re: The Wrath of God,The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man [Re: Mountain Man] #116847
07/30/09 12:57 AM
07/30/09 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Originally Posted By: teresaq
but im not sure why you are correcting me since im the one who started the topic and know what i intended.

You imported something I wrote and then asked me the following question - "So the key to how you see this is the "wrath of God", what that looks like",
oh. ok. well since you have your own intention for this thread, carry on.


Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?

Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.

Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
Re: The Wrath of God,The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man [Re: teresaq] #116864
07/30/09 12:31 PM
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Teresaq, I addressed your three questions. See 116843. What more do you want?

Re: The Wrath of God,The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man [Re: Mountain Man] #116889
07/30/09 11:01 PM
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perhaps it is a matter of understanding the topic title?


Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?

Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.

Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
Re: The Wrath of God,The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man [Re: teresaq] #116907
07/31/09 01:55 PM
07/31/09 01:55 PM
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Please explain the topic title. I am very interested in learning more about the wrath of God. I believe getting it right is important. Knowing God is essential to our sanity and salvation.

I have been praying about our communication problem. I really do want to study with you. But it is obvious I'm not very good at it. I manage to cause more trouble than good. Please help me out. What can I do to make studying together rewarding for you? It seems my questions and comments strike you as manipulative and interrogative. I do not mean them in that way. Please believe me.

Re: The Wrath of God,The Wrath of Satan, the The Wrath of Man [Re: Mountain Man] #116928
07/31/09 09:33 PM
07/31/09 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mountain Man
Please explain the topic title. I am very interested in learning more about the wrath of God. I believe getting it right is important. Knowing God is essential to our sanity and salvation.

I have been praying about our communication problem. I really do want to study with you. But it is obvious I'm not very good at it. I manage to cause more trouble than good. Please help me out. What can I do to make studying together rewarding for you? It seems my questions and comments strike you as manipulative and interrogative. I do not mean them in that way. Please believe me.
thank you. i do appreciate that. i also have been in prayer over this.


Psa 64:5 ...an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?

Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood. 15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made. 16 His mischief (and his violent dealing) shall return upon his own head.

Psa 7:17 I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.
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