But if you read the entire thought to the finnish, you will find that "salvation is of the jews" is already a thing of the past..

21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

There was a time when salvation was of the jews, but now it is not so confined anymore.

"Jesus embraced those who embraced Him." I wasn't talking about God being omnipresent and the fact no one can sin apart from His presence.

I think it is clear (in the quotes posted awhile ago) she believed the "remnant" (Rev 12:17) applied to the SDA church in the same way Jesus believed "salvation is of the Jews". (John 4:22) IOW, a complete knowledge of salvation is only available through the SDA Church in the same way it was only available through the Jews. Again, please keep in mind what I've said so many times before, namely, people can experience rebirth through the incomplete knowledge available in other Christian churches. Nevertheless, they cannot complete the process of converting to obeying and observing everything Jesus commanded through these churches. Why? Because their knowledge of everything Jesus commanded is either incorrect or incomplete.

Matthew
28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.

i deleted my other two points so that it wouldnt be so confusing. and have reinstated the examples of the constant sinning in Christs presence.

I haven't been following thid thread, but it seems to me the concept of the remnant has nothing to do with salvation. It has to do with a message to the world.

could you elaborate on that more. i didnt quite understand it.

Mike, We may have to agree on cordial disagreement here.

Rosangela, you should be telling that to Mike. Just refer to his post two posts before yours.

Are you talking about the same type of people I am? Please note that I am referring specifically to those who embraced Jesus. Are you saying Jesus hung out with them while they were in the throes of willfully practicing their grievous sins?

Can we divorce the mission and message of the Remnant Church from salvation? I am using the word "salvation" in the same sense Jesus did - "Salvation is of the Jews". In other words, isn't it true that Jesus raised up the SDA Church to preach and proclaim the 3AMs? Who else did He commission to do it? And, doesn't the salvation of souls depend on their reception or rejection of the 3AMs during the final hours earth's history? Ellen White wrote:

"In a special sense Seventh-day Adventists have been set in the world as watchmen and light bearers. To them has been entrusted the last message of mercy for a perishing world. On them is shining wonderful light from the Word of God. {HP 314.2}

The whole world is to be stirred with enmity against Seventh-day Adventists, because they will not yield homage to the papacy, by honoring Sunday, the institution of this antichristian power. It is the purpose of Satan to cause them to be blotted from the earth, in order that his supremacy of the world may not be disputed. {TM 36.2}

If ever there was a time in the history of Seventh-day Adventists when they should arise and shine, it is now. No voice should be restrained from proclaiming the third angel's message. Let none, for fear of losing prestige with the world, obscure one ray of light coming from the Source of all light. {UL 171.2}

The Lord calls upon you, oh, church that has been blessed with the truth, to give a knowledge of this truth to those who know it not. From one end of the world to the other must the message of Christ's soon coming be proclaimed. The third angel's message--the last message of mercy to a perishing world --is so precious, so glorious. Let the truth go forth as a lamp that burneth. Mysteries into which angels desire to look, which prophets and kings and righteous men desired to know, the church of God is to make known. {MM 333.4}

When Christ entered the most holy place of the heavenly sanctuary to perform the closing work of the atonement, He committed to His servants the last message of mercy to be given to the world. Such is the warning of the third angel of Revelation 14. Immediately following its proclamation, the Son of man is seen by the prophet coming in glory to reap the harvest of the earth. {SR 379.1}

Had Adventists, after the great disappointment in 1844, held fast their faith and followed on unitedly in the opening providence of God, receiving the message of the third angel and in the power of the Holy Spirit proclaiming it to the world, they would have seen the salvation of God, the Lord would have wrought mightily with their efforts, the work would have been completed, and Christ would have come ere this to receive His people to their reward. {Ev 695.3}

While the work of salvation is closing, trouble will be coming on the earth, and the nations will be angry, yet held in check so as not to prevent the work of the third angel. At that time the "latter rain," or refreshing from the presence of the Lord, will come, to give power to the loud voice of the third angel, and prepare the saints to stand in the period when the seven last plagues shall be poured out. {Mar 259.1}

Okay. If Jesus' coming is really and truly nigh at hand, then we shall know soon enough if Seventh-day Adventists are God's chosen vessels to disseminate "the last message of mercy to a perishing world."