Hi Teresa,
Well it got a little more than just talking about character and was not productive, which is why I asked if you and Asygo could maybe summarize what you believe in regards to this topic.
I believe Christ was made like unto His brethren, and He had our nature, and depended on the Father for His strength.

God Bless,
Will

yes, i got your point and your intention.

since your intention is to get us back on-topic, (but i doubt "productive" would naturally follow), ,

suffice it to say, i believe Jesus became fully human and, as you, that He depended wholly on the Father,

and may i add, thank God!!

Here's the short version: Christ took our nature, fallen but not corrupted, and would not be corrupted unless He received the words of Satan in the place of the words of God. {16MR 182.3}

In anything that is not corrupt, He was like us. In anything that is corrupt, He was not like us.

Quoting again:
Of the two natures described, I believe PP 45.2 applies to Jesus' humanity and nature, while GC 505.2 does not.

Of course there are ways He's not like us. As you point out here, He never sinned. However, He took upon His sinless nature our sinful nature. (MM 181, I think)

This is something you posted, not me. I asked you to quote something *I* posted.



Wasn't I very clear about this? I denied this, and asked you to quote something I had said. Instead of this you quoted something you had said. Why?

In regards to your question regarding Christ enduring every trial we have to, He did so by taking our sinful nature and bearing our sin in that sinful nature.

Thanks Asygo & Teresa

God Bless,
Will

Well I think Christ shows that man could resist sin, and live a sinless life while being like us. That was the argument that Satan put forth, and Christ proved wrong.

Teresa,

In internet etiquette, putting the text in a form such as you have it there is the equivalent of shouting. It creates an impression of argumentative rudeness when the text is enlarged and so gaudily colored. I feel as though you are trying to force your thoughts upon me.

Perhaps your thoughts are crystal clear as having only one possible meaning in your mind. But to others, there may be multiple ways of interpreting. We do not have your tone of voice to aid us in understanding your words--but the text which flaunts certain words so boldly does help us imagine your tone.

In the case of "the right synapses" in your quote above, let me assure you that I had seen and read those words before. But there are multiple ways of understanding them.

The scientific articles I found...did you read those? The auditory synapses are the first to form, they say, followed by all other brain regions. All of them are well developed before birth, and following birth they develop exponentially as the child is receiving a great deal of sensory stimulation.

As there is no brain region lacking in synapses, I question what you mean by the "right synapses." Perhaps you have not studied what happens in the brain of an individual who suffers from a severe head injury, a stroke, or a partial paralysis. It is interesting to note that even a person's memories can still be "regenerated" as new synapses are formed to replace those which have been lost. God created our brain in such a marvelous way that scientists are still baffled by it.

Question for you: If, as you claim, babies are unable to think prior to birth, and therefore, are unable to develop character, why were Samson's parents given special instructions regarding the prenatal care of the child? Likewise Elizabeth and Mary? And why does Mrs. White spend a great deal of time on the topic of prenatal influences?

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Teresa,

Contrary to your words in the post I responded to just above, you demonstrate here that you do not believe unborn babies have synapses. Therefore, I think you are showing yourself to be a little unfair towards my earlier understanding of your meaning. Would you agree?

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

Arnold, this statement holds wisdom for all men. The words of God are safe & sound.

Those not coming from God will lead to corruption.

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