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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Rosangela] #120106
10/05/09 02:26 AM
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Clearly the health authorities are in a bind.

Canada: Study prompts provinces to rethink flu plan - Globe & Mail

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15516
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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: gordonb1] #120111
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Swine Flu Resource Articles:

THE H1N1 SWINE FLU PANDEMIC - Centre for Research on Globalization

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=newsHighlights&newsId=46
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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: gordonb1] #120121
10/05/09 11:59 AM
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This topic will be temporarily closed until some of the posts here have been made into a new topic.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Daryl] #120122
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Posts removed and made into its own thread, therefore, this thread is now re-opened.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Daryl] #120126
10/05/09 01:19 PM
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I thought it would be good to post a link here to the other discussion:

http://www.maritime-sda-online.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=120003#Post120003

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: gordonb1] #120134
10/05/09 02:59 PM
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Correction & source:

Originally Posted By: gordonb1

These claims by Dr. Moulden are both fascinating and believable. On some fronts they harmonize with dietary research - foreign matter impeding circulation, as in free fats & processed fats. I believe EGW wrote that perfect circulation equals perfect health. Am missing the source. Mini or micro strokes can sum to dementia over time.


Here is one source of the same idea, which I misquoted:

"Perfect health requires a perfect circulation..." Ministry of Healing 293.
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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: gordonb1] #120136
10/05/09 03:22 PM
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Montreal Swine Flu Conference:

Here is a link for the conference of Sept. 23, 2009. Unfortunately for many Maritime viewers, this event was in French, but I post it for those who can understand.

If short on time, I recommend part 1 featuring Dr. Marc Zaffran (M.D.) from the Univerité de Montréal. I believe he has eight children, who will not receive the H1N1 vaccine. Part 4 is question period showing the wide spectrum of public concerns.

http://www.mtl911truth.org/?p=2404&langswitch_lang=fr
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Re: SWINE FLU [Re: gordonb1] #120199
10/06/09 09:48 PM
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Sunny D (not the beverage!) for Cold and Flu Protection

That's right, you might want to supplement with vitamin D or get a little sunshine on your face this fall and winter--it might just keep you cold- and flu-free. Increased levels of vitamin D may protect against common respiratory infections such as cold and flu, according to new findings published in the Archives of Internal Medicine.

Involving approximately 19,000 adults and adolescents, the study found that those with the lowest average levels of vitamin D were about 40% more likely to have a recent respiratory infection, compared to those with higher vitamin D levels--indicating that increased intake of vitamin D may be a significant way to boost the immune system's ability to fight the common cold and flu.

Lead author, Adit Ginde, MD, from the University of Colorado, Denver, wrote, "To our knowledge, this is the first population-based study to evaluate and demonstrate an association between serum 25(OH)D level and [upper respiratory tract infections]."

While low vitamin D levels were linked with higher risk of cold and flu in 'healthy' people, the researchers also noted that low levels were associated with even higher risks in people with chronic respiratory disorders (ie., asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) and emphysema).

Data from the Third National Health and Nutrition Examination survey served as the basis for the observations. Blood samples from the study group allowed the researchers to measure 25(OH)D levels. The links were observed in all seasons. The researchrs said that clinical trials to test vitamin D supplements to boost immunity and fight respiratory infections are being planned. --Arch Intern Med. 2009, Feb.23;169(4):384-90.

Comment: We certainly do not have to wait for more clinical trials to get the sunlight we need to prevent and alleviate various maladies. And don't forget the other laws of health as elucidated in the Spirit of Prophecy.

Suzanne

Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Suzanne] #120254
10/08/09 04:33 AM
10/08/09 04:33 AM
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I just received the following notice:
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Join Dr. Neil Nedley and Dr. Randy Siebold on the 3ABN Today program tomorrow, Thursday, October 7, 2009 starting at 8 p.m. CST. They will be discussing simple answers for the U.S. health care debacle as well as solutions for a crisis in America that is almost never talked about, yet may have deadly consequences for the U.S. economy. The program features a live call-in section.


Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: SWINE FLU [Re: Suzanne] #120255
10/08/09 04:35 AM
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Here are a few clips form a 'web article" A War i against Your Immune System.
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The Basic Fallacy of Vaccinations

It has been statistically proven that the declines in different diseases occurred significantly earlier than the vaccines developed for them. In other words, the viral strains died out while possibly many who were exposed developed a natural immunity. But the vaccination manufacturers took credit so they would be supported to produce more vaccines for big bucks. It's a very profitable business for Big Pharma.

A retired vaccine scientist turned whistle blower disclosed interesting information during an interview by investigative reporter Jon Rappaport in the year 2002: "They [vaccinations] involve the human immune system in a process that tends to compromise immunity. They can actually cause the disease they are supposed to prevent. They can cause other diseases than the ones they are supposed to prevent.

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The Immune System Briefly

The whistle blower, using the pseudonym of Dr. Mark Randall to protect his pension and keep from being harassed, went on to describe the immune system as being virtually the whole body and one's general emotional and mental attitude. What he and other vaccination critics point out is by injecting the vaccine directly into the blood stream, an important part of the physical body immune system is bypassed completely.

The first line of defense are the physical barriers which include the skin, mucosal membranes of the sinus area, throat and bronchial tubes and lungs, tears, ciliary elevator, (cilials are microscopic filaments that extend from mucosal linings and cells to brush and irrigate pathogens out) and urine. Chemical barriers include sebum sweat (oily secretion), stomach acid and lysozymes (the stuff that makes tears salty).

So, by injecting directly into the blood stream, this first line of defense is bypassed. It isn't able to function as a defender against the pathogens contained in the vaccine. In this case, we are dealing with live viruses in the vaccine. Attenuated means they have been processed to replicate more slowly. The adjuvants of mercury and/or squalene go right past that first line of defense as well. This, especially the squalene, often creates what is known as a cytokine storm.

A cytokine storm is when the injected pathogens and adjuvants, especially squalene, create an over reaction in the immune system. The abundance of antibodies then overwhelms healthy tissue with massive inflammation, beyond what would be a normal immune response. This can create a long term debilitating disease or even death. In other words, you get cooked in your own juices! Step right up; roll up your sleeve! This is good for you.

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Kissing a vaccinated person or being near one who is sneezing and coughing could be more hazardous than dealing with someone who has the swine flu! So those good citizens who get vaccinated could turn out to be more like suicide bombers, spreading viruses while dying slow deaths themselves!

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What the medical establishment doesn't know, or pretends not to know, is that the vaccination victim has what could be a low level viral infection for the rest of his life, which the immune system is forced to defend 24/7. This compromises an immune system and opens the gate for other pathogens to invade and create a fully manifested disease, even causing cancer./

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So What to Do?

Avoid the vaccinations any way you can. And avoid contact with those who have received the vaccination as much as possible, or at least wear the most appropriate mask to protect you.

Store up as much Vitamin D3 (not D2) in your body as possible. Vitamin D3 is not really a vitamin. It's the most powerful steroid hormone in the body. It not only supports general health better than any of the actual vitamins, it also acts as an immune regulator by boosting your immune system when needed and slowing it down to reduce a cytokine storm! Do your own vitamin D research. There's plenty of data available on the internet now.
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Sunlight.

978. This is one of nature's most healing agents. --T., V. II, p. 527.

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