Rosangela,

Perhaps you did not watch the full length of the video (it continues automatically to the next segment after each 8 min. or so). The lady says the Swine Flu is a descendant of, and very similar to, the 1918 plague virus that went around the world, and which also cropped up in about 1976 as the Swine Flu. At that time (1976), the government mandated vaccinations, but the program was halted after more people died of the vaccine than had died of the disease!

So anyone born before 1976 is likely to have immunity. Those who are younger than 30 would not be among them. The 1976 outbreak just boosted the immunity of the population, the older ones of whom had been exposed in 1918. That is why they now have antibodies to the virus and are not affected by it.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

GC,

I really hadn't seen the part you are speaking about. I've just noticed there are 6 parts, and I've watched just the first one.
In the 60-Minutes video just below it, the doctor interviewed, one of the US top virologists, says that viruses similar to that of the H1N1 flu were in circulation in the 1930's and 1940's, and that those who were born before about 1950 are better protected against the H1N1 virus.
As to the 1976 swine flu outbreak, according to the Wiki, "infections were only detected from January 19 to February 9, and were not found outside Fort Dix" (NJ). If it was just a local, very restricted outbreak, there is no reason to believe it would have boosted the immunity of the population in general.
As to the pneumonia, I understood the condition of the patient is aggravated by the damages caused by the virus before the bacteria invades the respiratory tract. That's why these pnemonias can be so serious.
Also, nobody still understands why some have only mild symptons while in others the virus multiplies itself so fast and causes so much damage.

Ok, one thing at a time.
I would agree that anesthesia is a drug. Do you disagree? You are making that of some relevance which I do not understand. Could you explain what that has to do with spleens, or the taking of drugs to enable physical repairs of spleens?

Ok...so perhaps we can agree that anesthetics are drugs. Do you view Ellen White as saying they should never be used?

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

What I said I viewed Ellen White as saying is that drugs never cure disease.

So, kland, you would still be willing to use things like anesthetics, is that right? And drugs may sometimes be necessary, even though they do not cure disease, is that right?

A little medication for the heart can keep it pumping longer. To refuse the drug might be to accept an earlier demise. Every heart will fail sooner or later. Much of the modern medicine we have has extended life. Of course, the medication does not "cure" the heart. The heart will grow old and fail eventually, no matter what one may do. The "disease" is sin--which drugs certainly do not cure.

To try to bring this back to the "swine flu" issue, let me ask a few questions:

1. What drugs/medications/vitamins etc. would you be comfortable taking ahead of the swine flu which is going around?
2. What drugs/medications/vitamins etc. would you take if you contracted the disease?
3. What doctors would you see? and would you follow their prescriptions?



Blessings,

Green Cochoa.

H1N1 flu preventions from Dr. Oz




Date: Saturday, October 17, 2009, 12:48 PM



The following advice, given by Dr. Oz, makes a lot of sense and is important for all to know:

The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.

While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):

1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).

2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat or bathe.)

3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine or Hydrogen Peroxide if you don't trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.

4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water, or hydrogen peroxide. *Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but *blowing the nose softly once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.*



5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.

6. *Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, hot drinks, etc) as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.

Susanne started Just Say No to Drugs.
A good place to continue this subject of the use of "drugs" in healing!

What's happening in the Ukraine?

Some believe we are dealing with a new form of bio-weapon.
There are fears circulating the internet that Ukraine’s ‘new virus’ is a deadly bio-weapon released by the pharmaceutical company, Baxter International, which has a research facility in Ukraine.

August 2009
Joseph Moshe was endeavouring to expose the fact that Baxter’s Ukraine facility had produced a bio-weapon disguised as a vaccine.
A growing number now suspect that the virus decimating the Ukraine could be the bio-weapon referred to by Moshe two months previous to the outbreak.

What are we to think?

Link

Unless somebody can convince me otherwise, I for one do not intend to take the H1N1 flu vaccine.

I have been told, however, that Dr. Neil Nedley said that it is OK to take the H1N1 flu vaccine. Does anybody know anything about this?