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Re: Could Christ have sinned.
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Christ could have chosen to assert his own human will and gone contrary to the will of God (sinned) Do you agree with Colin? Above he wrote: Still, had Jesus sinned, then, hypothetically, the Father would have lost his Son..., and the trinity would no longer a trinity. To avoid that potential of the risk of Jesus sinning, the possibility is excluded: Jesus could not sin.
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Re: Could Christ have sinned.
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Now, I thank God that Jesus' merits save me from sin & death, and that he overcame sin in the flesh! Still, had Jesus sinned, then, hypothetically, the Father would have lost his Son..., and the trinity would no longer a trinity. To avoid that potential of the risk of Jesus sinning, the possibility is excluded: Jesus could not sin. Our scholars haven't published this point, yet, to the best of my knowledge. Had Christ sinned, He would have lost His deity and the heavenly Trio would have become a heavenly Duet. The Godhead wouldn't cease to exist because of that. Now, the reason other churches present for not believing Jesus could sin is not the Trinity, but the fact that Jesus was God, and God cannot sin.
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Re: Could Christ have sinned.
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Had Christ sinned, He would have lost His deity and the heavenly Trio would have become a heavenly Duet. The Godhead wouldn't cease to exist because of that. While I believe that the Godhead would cease to exist as we know it, I don't think Jesus would have lost His deity. He is divine, not because He was made divine, but because He is such inherently. Jesus has always been God, whether or not anyone knew it or acknowledged it. Therefore, I do not think that He can lose that attribute, even if He had sinned. One possibility is that He could have chosen to die and not come back. He could have remained dead forever. And the separation caused by sin within the Godhead would have been permanent. Ugly, to say the least. Another possible result is that He would have lost His holiness. Then there would be an immortal, omnipotent, evil Being. We are seeing the mess caused by an angel who rebelled. Can we even imagine the mess of an evil God? The risk that God took in the plan of salvation is surely beyond finite comprehension.
By God's grace,
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1 John 5:11-13
And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Re: Could Christ have sinned.
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HI, Arnold. I was thinking about this quote:
Though Christ humbled Himself to become man, the Godhead was still His own. His deity could not be lost while He stood faithful and true to His loyalty. Surrounded with sorrow, suffering, and moral pollution, despised and rejected by the people to whom had been intrusted the oracles of heaven, Jesus could yet speak of Himself as the Son of man in heaven. He was ready to take once more His divine glory when His work on earth was done. {5BC 1129.3}
Had there been the least taint of sin in Christ, Satan would have bruised His head. As it was, he could only touch His heel. Had the head of Christ been touched, the hope of the human race would have perished. Divine wrath would have come upon Christ as it came upon Adam. Christ and the church would have been without hope. But Christ "knew no sin." He was the Lamb "without blemish and without spot." {16MR 119.3}
There is something about Christ remaining in the tomb, but I don't remember the exact words to find the quote.
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Re: Could Christ have sinned.
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To the honor and glory of God, His beloved Son—the Surety, the Substitute—was delivered up and descended into the prisonhouse of the grave. The new tomb enclosed Him in its rocky chambers. If one single sin had tainted His character the stone would never have been rolled away from the door of His rocky chamber, and the world with its burden of guilt would have perished. {10MR 385.1}
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Could Christ have sinned.
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It's hard to imagine the deity of Christ remaining entombed forever. Praise the Lord Jesus succeeded.
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Re: Could Christ have sinned.
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Thank you, Tom. That's the quote I was referring to.
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Re: Could Christ have sinned.
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You're welcome. It took me a little while to find, as it's difficult not knowing exactly what words to use for the search.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Could Christ have sinned.
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It's hard to imagine the deity of Christ remaining entombed forever. Praise the Lord Jesus succeeded. It's Christ's humanity which would have been entombed forever. Deity cannot die (or be entombed). These are pretty mind-blowing concepts we're dealing with!
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Could Christ have sinned.
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Yes, and another mind-blowing concept is that of Christ losing His deity.
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