"Repentance" comes from the Greek words "meta noya", which means "after mind". The idea is that one used to think one way, but now thinks another. When one chooses the way of sin, one has embarked upon a direction, the end of which is death. God knows the end from the beginning, and warns of this end....

What I view as the important thing is that the believer has chosen to align oneself with God. Moses sinned in a moment of weakness, but as you yourself pointed out, this was not what was in Moses' heart. Actually, your words were that Moses repented the instant he sinned, which demonstrates that it was no in Moses' heart to act contrary to God's wishes.

Moses was aligned with God, or, to put it another way, in harmony with God, and this was the important thing. No need for imputed repentance!

(This is from post #122332)

Regarding whether it involves confession and forgiveness, I'm not sure what you're asking about on the forgiveness part. Do you forgiving others? Regarding confession, one would have repented will confess. The same could be said of restitution. Zacharius is an example.

Tom, here's how "repent" is used in Acts:

Acts
2:37 Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men [and] brethren, what shall we do?
2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
8:22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
26:20 But showed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and [then] to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Do you think repentance is conversion, change of mind, change of direction, living in harmony with the will of God? Or, do you think it results in it?

Do you think post-conversion confession and forgiveness is unnecessary for people like Moses who sin?

Repentance comes from the two words "meta" and "noya" in the Greek, which means "after" and "mind." It means "after mind." That is, before you thought one way, now you think another. They heard the Gospel, it pricked their hearts, and they changed their minds, or way of thinking. Their new way of thinking led to new actions.

Tom, this topic still bothered me.

Can you help me by giving the name of weekly days in Greek of the 1st century. I want to make sure that when John wrote this revelation (+/- 97 AD), the name of the 1st day is not kuriake hemera.

In His love

hemera heli(o)u, hemera selenes, hemera Areos, hemera Hermu, hemera Dios, hemera Aphrodites, hemera Khronu. (http://www.cjvlang.com/Dow/dow1.html)

Starting with Sunday, and ending with Saturday.

This doesn't speak of the timing as to when "day of the Lord" started being used. The following does, however:



I think this quote is "from Sabbath to Sunday."

It sounds like you're saying the words repentance and rebirth mean the same thing. What biblical word do you use to describe people who specify how they sinned and express genuine sorrow? And, do you think doing so is necessary?

Did you mean, that when John wrote Revelation, at that time the name of the 1st day in Greek commonly used is "hemera heli(o)u and not "kuriake hemera"? If so, when the change happen? Is there any evedence, writings from those time about this change?

In His love

Samuel Bacciochi wrote a book, called "From Sabbath to Sunday" which goes into detail about how this change took place. As I stated, according to this book, this phrase first started to appear near the end part of the second century, or about 100 years after John wrote Revelation.

The book goes into the evidence.

Why do you think this? I just explained what "repentance" means, from the Greek.



Generally speaking, in Scripture, the "after mind" involves this. (one could repent for other things, such as God repented for having made man, but usually the context is man's repenting for having sinned.) That is, before one didn't see one's responsibility, or guilt, but after the light, or truth, is received, one sees one's responsibility/guilt, and this "after mind" results in godly sorrow.



I assume by "necessary" you mean a necessary part of being born again? If so, yes, it's necessary that we see our sin in its true light.

Tom, where does repentance happen in the sequence you described? That is, does it happen before or after they "changed their minds or way of thinking"?

And, is repentance required when people like Moses sin after "one sees one's responsibility/guilt" and experiences a "change of mind or way of thinking"? IOW, when is post-conversion confession and repentance necessary? Under what circumstances is it required (referring to people like Moses)?

And, do you think habitual real righteousness (as opposed to imputed), like people like Moses regularly experience, counts as confession and repentance when they sin (making it unnecessary to actually verbalize it)?

PS - It would be nice if you would elaborate on your answers so I don't have to ask the obvious follow-up questions. Thank you.