Do you really believe repentance is unnecessary for people like Moses? If so, what makes you think they would have repented had they not died died first? Why would they repent if it's redundant and unnecessary?


Why do you think, based solely on their characters, we can predict people like Moses would repent had death not taken them first, but then turn around and say we cannot predict they would not sin when tempted in this lifetime? Why do you think we can say they will not sin in heaven but we cannot say they will not sin here?

I think any sin, if it is to be forgiven, requires repentance.
After the "smitten rock" incident, Moses and Aaron did repent, didn't they?

"...they were not chargeable with willful or deliberate sin; they had been overcome by a sudden temptation, and their contrition was immediate and heartfelt. The Lord accepted their repentance, though because of the harm their sin might do among the people, He could not remit its punishment." (PP 419)

I've never said this. I don't know what you're asking either. What do you mean "people like Moses?" Repentance for what? Necessary in what sense?



I've answered this in regards to Moses. If you mean by "people like Moses" something like "people who would have done the same thing Moses would have done," then I answered this by answering the question in regards to Moses.



Why do you think I think it would be redundant and unnecessary? I don't.

So many of your questions, well over half, from my POV involve false assumptions. This makes it impossible for me to answer your yes or no questions yes or no.



The first question is presupposing that the person is on the point of death, and going to heaven. We know the person's character doesn't change upon death, therefore it's clear the person would have repented, as any person in heaven would repent. The second question is of a different order.



There will be no sin in heaven, or temptations in heaven, nor sinful flesh in heaven. Please note I'm not saying it's necessary that people sin here. I'm just saying we can't say that a given person won't sin; we just don't know. (unless you're talking about a special circumstance, like after the close of probation).

Tom, it sounds like you believe if people like Moses (people who love to live in harmony with God's will and way) who sin and die before they repent that God will simply dismiss it during judgment. Whereas, I believe God will impute repentance on their behalf.

Dismiss the sin? I'm not sure what you mean by that.

I don't think it matters that a person committed a sin while dying, that they would have repented of had they lived.



I've said I see no need for this.

By dismiss I mean = ignore, disregard, treat as if it never happened.

I don't think it will be an issue, so if your definition allows for this, then OK.

Do you think God will treat such sins in judgment as though they never happened?

The sins that are important are ones that have an impact on the character.

Is there some reason one should think this does not encompass every sin?

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.