Yes I have, several times. We're told that the wicked will be resurrected with the same bodies that they had when they went to the grave. There's no statement saying they will be healed of handicaps, right?



I pointed out that you yourself referred to my having stated that there will be visual and audible communication in addition to the individual communication.

You didn't answer any of my questions in your response here. I'll repost them for your convenience.





I'm not sure. I think I disagree. Are you saying God looks exactly like a human being? If so, yes, I disagree. God is not a human being. Jesus however, is a human being, and will look like a human being.

I think other beings will perceive God as looking like themselves, as opposed to looking like humans.



I spoke of your views of God's character, not God. Do you not understand this? (i.e., what I'm saying)

I'm saying you hold two views of God's character which seem schizophrenic. I didn't say God is schizophrenic, or that you think God is schizophrenic.



Regarding it's being childlike, if you don't perceive this, I don't think I can help. Regarding God's being a "spirit," why did you put that in quotes? I'm sure God is able to manifest Himself physically however He wishes, and if wished for people to be able to sit on His lap, He could certainly accomplish this. After all, He created the universe. Being able to have people sit on His lap would be rather trivial for Him, wouldn't it?

IIRC, the first one came from the temple, and the last two from above.

I'm sure you agree "Satan bore not only the weight and punishment of his own sins" means Satan will suffer for the sins he himself committed. However, I'm surprised you disagree "not only . . . but also of the sins of the redeemed host" means he will also suffer for the sins the redeemed host committed. And, I'm surprised you don't agree "and he must also suffer for the ruin of souls which he had caused" means he will also suffer for causing the unsaved to be lost. Ellen clearly identifies three separate and distinct things for which Satan will suffer.

I'm talking about the first resurrection. Please answer the question with this in mind. Thank you.


To whom will He communicate verbally and visually? Will He assemble the verbal and visual people together and communicate to them as a group? Will the mind-to-mind people be assembled elsewhere so His verbal and visual communication does not distract them?


1. Everyone will be present when Jesus replays earth's history. Each one will see the life they lived and how it impacted others.

2. Jesus will resurrect the wicked with all their senses in working order. He will either resurrect them with the ability to understand the same language or with the ability to hear in their own language.


Thank you for answering my question. Does God shift shapes so that other species of beings see Him differently than we do?


I'll reword it - No, the two different aspects of God’s character I've been sharing are not schizophrenic or contradictory.


Does God have a "default" form, a form that is His normal form, one from which He shifts shapes for the benefit of others? If so, what does His default form look like?

Also, I put the word "spirit" in quotes because I was quoting scripture. See John 4:24. I should have capitalized the first letter - "Spirit". Ellen wrote:

To those present who hear and see things.



No to both. The visual and audible communication is global in scope. It's what seen and heart in the sky. It's not individual. That would be impossible.



How will they see this? Isn't it because God makes this clear to them?



If they're deaf, their own language is sign language. They don't need to hear to understand sign language.

This whole conversation seems funny to me. At times, they're are the simplest things to understand, yet you insist upon some text saying the simple to understand thing. For example, we're told that God offered Lucifer pardon again and again, and you wanted some statement saying Lucifer had sinned. Obviously he had sinned or he wouldn't need pardon. But you wouldn't accept this. You wanted a specific statement that didn't involve having to reason.

Here you have an elaborate theory which not only is not stated anywhere, it's based on assumptions which are obviously false, and actually contrary to what inspiration has told us, which is that the wicked are raised with the same bodies they went to the grave with.



If a deaf person were raised with the ability to hear, they still wouldn't be able to speak or understand a spoken language.



No. People, or beings, perceive things differently. Here's an example of the principle:





They seem very contradictory to me. On the one hand is a view of God which is very endearing and kind. On the other hand is a view of God which is harsh, severe and cruel.



Jesus referred to His form in John 4. We know angels can appear in different forms. I'm sure God could if He wanted to. This all seems rather speculative.

I hadn't read the FLB 40 statement. That's nicely explained.

He'll suffer for his responsibility regarding those sins.



I don't disagree. He'll suffer for his responsibility for those sins as well.



This is what I said. I don't see what you're surprised about what I said. Of course Satan suffers for what he did to the lost. The reason I brought this up to you is because you omitted it. You spoke of his bearing the sins of the saved, as if there was some arbitrary transfer of sins going on. What I was pointing out is that Satan suffers because of his responsibility, whether in regards to the saved or the unsaved.



Which are all based on the same principle: responsibility.

Tom, thank you for the dialog.