MM, here is what I hear you saying,
You are saying that although Paul may not have actually said Christ paid for the sins of the world on the cross, you feel Paul agrees with it and if Paul agrees with it, that is the same thing as saying it.

I believe Paul and Ellen are in complete agreement regarding Jesus paying our sin debt of death on the cross. I believe Ellen clarified what Paul wrote so that we don't have to rely on our own uninspired ideas about it. What she did is the essence and epitome of "line upon line, here a little, there a little."

MM, 2 days ago I wrote this:



To date, you have provided no texts from Paul to support the idea that Paul said either of these two things. Do you agree that Paul, in deed, did not say this? If you disagree, please provide some text from Paul which says either of these two things.

I agree with you that Paul did not use those exact words. I hope that answer your question. Now, do you agree with me that Ellen elaborated upon what Paul and others wrote about it? If so, do you also agree with me that she conveys the idea expressed in the following sentence - "Jesus paid our sin debt of death on the cross"?

Well, it seems we have managed to clear Pauls name from the accusations of despising context. I guess we can now turn to Mikes primary evidence and look at how Ellen views prooftexting and whether she is guilty of it.

Thomas, as the texts I posted earlier demonstrate, Paul strung together short excerpts from the OT to establish and prove his point. He did not quote the entire passage. In the examples I quoted above, he used one sentence and partial sentences to arrive at conclusions not inherent in the context. Personally, I have no problem with him or anyone else employing the Bible in this fashion (so long as their conclusions are biblically sound).

He didn't just not use "those exact words." He didn't say what you claimed in any way, which is why you're unable to produce any statement of his saying that he did.



It took awhile, with the false starts, but it's a beginning.



Ellen White's function wasn't to turn off our thinking, as this seems to be suggesting. Ellen White lived in a different century, millennium even, in a different culture. It wasn't her function to clarity Paul's writings. She never suggested such a thing. Why do you have an idea like this? She never explained her role in any way even remotely resembling this idea.



I disagree with this too, at least as I'm perceiving your understanding of the idea. Kevin wrote about Ellen White's function as a prophet. Do you remember this? It's been awhile. I thought it was an excellent explanation.



I made no comment about what Ellen White wrote. I agree Ellen White said what you quoted her to say.

Do you agree that Paul didn't say this?

In agreement with vaster, I'm glad we cleared that false accusation up. I will assume what you make it appear to mean and attempt to dismiss the qualifier, "exact".