In what way does it benefit them? Jesus and Peter had this to say:

Matthew
18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Mark
14:21 The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.

2 Peter
2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known [it], to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Also, do you believe Jesus justified everyone on the cross? Or, do you believe He made justification available and possible?

Full, eternal separation from God, also known as the second death judgement on sin and sinners.

The guilt we suffer after sinning and before confessing is a faint, merciful hint of that wrath of God.

You may differ with the first line, there, on the wrath of God, I think.

PS - Colin, your LOC: (upper right corner) used to say something about England. Now it says E. Oregon, USA.

Yes, Mike, I've married an American SDA, at the start of this year.

So you took the jump from England to US without even allowing yourself a transition period in, say, Canada?

Colin, congratulations. Eastern Oregon is beautiful. Several years ago we seriously considered moving to Baker City or La Grande. I really like the Wallowa Mountains. Have taught outdoor classes there for Walla Walla College. And, of course, rafting in Hells Canyon is truly adventurous.

So Christ experienced full, eternal separation from God, or the second death judgment on sin an sinners. What does this mean? That is, what happened to Christ?



What causes the guilt we suffer?



I don't differ with what you said. I might differ with what you mean, but I'm not sure, as I'm not sure what you think God did to Christ, or what God will do to the wicked.

Lol, Vaster.

I have Canadian friends, too - and Canada is better in some ways, but this time I made a beeline , he he, pulled by our heart strings. (...no 'hearts' around here )

Yes, really scenic round here, but England is a lusher green, mainly grass too, like all over - without (m)any barren stretches. Hell's Canyon is across the border, in Idaho, of course.

This is a dispersed, rural SDA community too, unlike in SE WA & Nampa, ID. But we have a couple of church members nearby, too.

Colin, Christ’s human nature can’t be separated from Himself - He was the God-man. So, if His human nature was condemned, He was condemned. But if He had to die because of His own condemnation, He couldn’t die because of our condemnation.