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Re: How can it be assured sin won't rise a second time?
[Re: Mountain Man]
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10/14/10 03:42 PM
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God said it, I believe it, and that settles it for me. He knows the end from the beginning. He knows the future like history. He exists in the past, present, and future simultaneously. So you see no reason why this should be the case? It's as if God said there are X stars in existence, and this is a fact that God knows because He is more intelligent than you, but you have no knowledge of this fact.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: How can it be assured sin won't rise a second time?
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10/14/10 07:29 PM
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"How can it be assured sin won't rise a second time?" God said, "What do ye imagine against the LORD? he will make an utter end: affliction shall not rise up the second time."
T: Yes, this is the question; how can this be assured? God said it, I believe it, and that settles it for me. Are you being sarcastic or is this for real how you believe? He knows the end from the beginning. He knows the future like history. He exists in the past, present, and future simultaneously. The question was, how. You seem to be saying that you have no desire to explore "how" nor have any comment on it.
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Re: How can it be assured sin won't rise a second time?
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10/15/10 03:46 PM
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I spelled out how God can assure us. He doesn't rely solely on deduction, based on character traits, that sin and rebellion will never reoccur.
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Re: How can it be assured sin won't rise a second time?
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Re: How can it be assured sin won't rise a second time?
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10/16/10 02:24 AM
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I agree with kland. Would you spell that out please?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: How can it be assured sin won't rise a second time?
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10/16/10 07:26 PM
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God exists in the past, present, and future simultaneously, therefore, the reason He knows sin and rebellion will not reoccur is due to the fact it did not reoccur.
I understand, Tom, that you believe one of the reasons God knows is because He is a good judge of character and can, therefore, accurately predict the future.
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Re: How can it be assured sin won't rise a second time?
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10/17/10 02:22 AM
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You believe that future has already occurred, until the end of time? So anything that happens, until the end of eternity, that we experience, God has already experienced. I'm understanding you correctly, right?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: How can it be assured sin won't rise a second time?
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10/18/10 02:29 PM
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God exists in the past, present, and future simultaneously, therefore, the reason He knows sin and rebellion will not reoccur is due to the fact it did not reoccur.
I understand, Tom, that you believe one of the reasons God knows is because He is a good judge of character and can, therefore, accurately predict the future. Would you be saying that God does not predict the future but has experienced or is the future? So, back to the atheist, if he was merely ignorant of his ignorance, why doesn't God inform the angels that there is no concern for any concern of whether sin will rise a second time? Why does He keep them in the dark?
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Re: How can it be assured sin won't rise a second time?
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10/20/10 04:24 PM
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Tom, I believe eternity has already happened and God, therefore, knows everything. But God isn't limited to the future. He exists in the past, present, and the future simultaneously.
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Re: How can it be assured sin won't rise a second time?
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Kland, God never predicts the future. He describes it. And, I don't understand your second question.
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